Bang for Buck Upgrades...

[hks-s14]

Are we just talking about GTR's here, or the entire gammit of cars?

PFC's out of the box can start all imports first time, it will more then likely be a ping-master due to it being tuned for Jap fuel though.

Originally posted by EVL R33

I think if you polled the number of PFC users compared to Wolf users the stats would tell you otherwise..  

For mild to mid modded cars either one is more than capable,  but once you start getting serious most people don't use either of these.

How good is the standard maps in the wolf?  Is it as plug and play as the PFC???

Brett

[GTS-t VSPEC]

No I don't believe the Wolf comes with a pre-loaded map, but seeing as you get given software you can simply download a map from someone who is running similar spec to you:D

And yes, I think if you did a pole in WA you would see which way the wind is blowing:D

[EVL R33]

An arguement which could go on forever depending on which ecu you prefer.

No doubt the Wolf is gaining popularity, but PFC would still have more users atm, may change in the future who knows.. Like someone else said most shops shy away from Wolf (some won't do PFC either) because they prefer other stuff. More shops will suggest PFC over wolf which probably explains the higher users.. Though more and more shops are telling you to go for Autronic or Motec (read shitloads of money)...

6 of one half a dozen of the other IMO

[GTS-t VSPEC]

The PowerFC are a good computer, and up until recently the import market hasn't had much competition, it's nice to finally have some choice in ECU's.

I totally agree that each workshop will lean towards what they want to sell, because they feel more comfortable tuning it, and aslong as it makes the power without blowing up then all is good:D

I really think that Apexi should release the laptop software though, I see it as a major drawback IMHO, as not everyone has access to a Datalogit.

[EVL R33]

Agree wholeheartedly, if the factory PFC software was available in english it would be a much more rounded package with even less flaws it currently has...

Still, if Steve could hire a Japanese speaking (reading) mechanic and we can somehow get the software from Japan we are in business lol

[GTS-t VSPEC]

:bahaha: Those Japanese hands would be good for getting to all those impossible bolts in out cars too:D

[R33 Impul]

As the Wolf V's PFC rages again I will chuck in my totally uneducated 2c, Go the Wolf.........................

That's my plan after the front pipe a extremely high flow cat;) are fitted.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

I think the popularity of the PowerFC is partly due to the fact that the Japanese have been using it sucessfully for so long, but the range of Aussie based ECU's have upped the anti.

[AeroGrace]

OT:

fane did you get your car thru Paul at autoworx?

[N I B]

Fabian has found the limits of his PFC and is changing it soon.

Wolf GTR Plugins are out this week and were putting one in Ants Killer.Plugins do come mapped now amd MAP sensor are fine on road cars and many factory cars are on MAP like Supras and many other Toyotas and lots of Holdens and 6 cyl Falcons ETC.

Some of the shops that bag Wolfs have tryed to be dealers but get knocked back. Wheelspin ,Xspeed, Regional motorsport and Maitland performance + Works now sell Wolf for us.

Wolf would easy be the most used ECUs in WA ( I sold 18 last week)

[ix9]

Originally posted by AeroGrace

OT:

fane did you get your car thru Paul at autoworx?

Yes, Indirectly though....

[fane]

the picture on the left i believe is from there....i need to take another pic...

a mate bought the car in feb and sold it to me as he went up to the mines...

thanks for the input guys i'll be going the front/dump pipe first then mebbe a high flow cat and then the wolf then the fmic me thinks....this the correct order everyone reckon?

i would go the safc kim but i figured why half do the job why not just go the extra money and save upgrading again in the future....

[ix9]

Fane,

Prolly go the Dump/Front + Cat, then FMIC, then wolf It'll let you have some fun upping the boost before you fork out the mega-fold for a Wolf

And Yep, your completely right, if your power goals warrant a wolf, then why settle for an AFC?

That said, there's a market for AFCs if you were to upgrade to a Wolf later, like so many other's have

Good Luck with the mods

[fane]

how much boost can i run with stock turbo, with dump/front as it is now..??

it seems like its cutting when its cold whether... it goes like brr brrrr not like a back-fire but like the fuel is cutting down or something?

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Fane, You may be hitting the factory boost cut:( Safe boost is about 12psi, but many of us have run 14psi for quite a while:D

[ix9]

Paul,

That said it should be pointed out that with the stock cooler I wouldn't push it past 11psi, I keep mine on 10psi. Simply because the pressure drop across the Stock IC is rediculously high.

With a frontmount I dont see 13-14psi being an issue

Fane,

Could be misfiring, could be boost cut, could be faulty AFM, could be too much fuel, next time I see ya take me for a drive and we'll try a few things out. I had the same problem. Most of it is gone now after the AFC though

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Kym, True, I always forget the gay stock cooler, yeah 10-11psi with stock cooler:D

[fane]

its not a misfire....i dont think....no bangs after it or nothing...

its more like a cut down in power to keep me under the boost cut level....i'll take ya for a drive kym and u can see....

ps. is it kim or kym?

[ix9]

Paul,

yes the stock coola is gay, now I realise it

Fane,

it's kym

You got a boost gauge yeh ? What does it read when it makes that brrrr noise ?

[fane]

neg on the boost gauge wanna get one for this weekend and help me put it in then we can see if its a boost cut?