Air Conditioning

[akabubbles]

hi guys just want to know where i can get my gas refilled for the r32 gtr Air Conditioning , i from the western sub

thanks

[superspit]

hi guys just want to know where i can get my gas refilled for the r32 gtr Air Conditioning , i from the western sub

thanks

ok...SOG? (short of gas)....how could you tell that you a/c is n/s because of a lack of gas?...just curious.

(please don't tell me that you pressed the low pressure line fill valve, and heard nothing???..lol!)

Sealed, critical charge devices should never go sog, and the chances of you finding a refridge mechanic that will simply "top her up" is almost impossible, as it's not legal.

What you need is a complete service that incorporates a 'leak check'.

There could also be other issues that are stopping your a/c from operating....

Either way, a service is worth every cent, especially with what's coming up in the next few days!!!

As far as where to go?......I'm sure there will be members here that can recco some honest joint up your way.

Let us know how you get on.

[Curmi]

pm me and ill give you a number and its in the west too its $100 to refill but if you have the old gas you have to get it converted so another $100 or something like that

[superspit]

pm me and ill give you a number and its in the west too its $100 to refill but if you have the old gas you have to get it converted so another $100 or something like that

Do R32's use R134a.....?

Seems too cheap!!...then again, if he has to refill it every 2 or 3 months, maybe not so cheap.

Get it serviced properly.

[Curmi]

there is the old gas then there is the new gas i think the new gas is r13 not sure... yeah he is cheaper then other places

[SteveL]

Do R32's use R134a.....?

R32's used R12 from the factory. $100-$150 is normal for a system check and top-up (whether R12 or R134a), and $250-$300+ to change a system from R12 to R134a depending on how much profit the a/c joint wants to make....

BTW, car a/c systems are not 'sealed' in the same way as a refrigerator. Car systems use o-rings at joints and mechanical seals for the rotating shaft in the compressor. They can and do lose a small amount of gas over a period of time, particularly at the compressor mech seal. It is very important to run a car system at least once a week as it helps maintain a good seal.

[superspit]

R32's used R12 from the factory. $100-$150 is normal for a system check and top-up (whether R12 or R134a), and $250-$300+ to change a system from R12 to R134a depending on how much profit the a/c joint wants to make....

BTW, car a/c systems are not 'sealed' in the same way as a refrigerator. Car systems use o-rings at joints and mechanical seals for the rotating shaft in the compressor. They can and do lose a small amount of gas over a period of time, particularly at the compressor mech seal. It is very important to run a car system at least once a week as it helps maintain a good seal.

ok....'a sealed system'?...they're all sealed in practice!!..lol!...regardless of O-rings...or compressor type....etc....until they become 'unsealed'....then we have issues.

The home fridge doesn't have to face the rigors and therefore be built like a car, so it's connectivity and compressor type is simpler and lighter etc etc.....ahh shit...now this is just getting silly.

Any 'professional' looking at the above poster's car will be breaking the law if......

he uses/supplements a banned gas (R12)?... or other CFC's.

(He would have no pure stocks of it anyway, just whatever is in his 'reclaim' cylinder....for disposal as per strict guidelines.)

or simply tops-up a system without prior checking for a 'pressure compromised' system....this test takes time to do properly, even with good quality/well calibrated electronic detectors and tools.

That is why a non-hack AC specialist gets paid...and he deserves it.

Steve's advice on using the A/C often, (at least once a week) regardless of climate is very good, and will ensure that compressor bearings won't seize up.

Topping up with R12 ????...(NO WAY!! IT'S ILLEGAL!!!!).........period.

I would like to know the number of a guy (a professional) who would service my a/c for a hundgey....pfffffffft.

Get a proper conversion, and expect to pay a little bit more and get it done properly.

[trel]

i paid $66 dollars for a re-fill on my r33. i could care less if it doesn't work again next summer. 66 bucks was way too cheap to complain.

[superspit]

i paid $66 dollars for a re-fill on my r33. i could care less if it doesn't work again next summer. 66 bucks was way too cheap to complain.

wow....that is good!....and agreed, it's way too cheap......!

As long as you're happy!

[SteveL]

ok....'a sealed system'?...they're all sealed in practice!!..lol!...regardless of O-rings...or compressor type....etc....until they become 'unsealed'....then we have issues.

I repeat, it's not a 'sealed system' in the same way as a refrigerator, which are, literally, hermetically sealed with brazed joints. There is simply no argument about that and my other statements are absolutely correct.

Topping up with R12 ????...(NO WAY!! IT'S ILLEGAL!!!!).........period.

This shows your lack of understanding of the law. It is quite legal for existing stocks of new r12 to be used to top-up automotive systems. However it's not legal to recycle R12 to be used in auto systems.....'recovered' R12 must be destroyed (high-temp furnace). Stocks of new, legally imported R12 still exist and will do so for quite some time. The law is designed not to penalise those who imported their R12 stock legally before the import ban came into effect (as well as the retailers who held stock).

Just in the last month I had my GTR converted to R134a from R12 (it came into the country with R12 4+ years ago), BUT I had the choice of topping up with R12 if I wanted....quite legally. The difference in price was $100. I'd give you the name of the licensed company concerned to straighten you out on the details of the law, but I really don't want you bothering him with questions I've already answered here.

Anyway, believe what you will,, it makes no difference to me.

[superspit]

I repeat, it's not a 'sealed system' in the same way as a refrigerator, which are, literally, hermetically sealed with brazed joints. There is simply no argument about that and my other statements are absolutely correct.

This shows your lack of understanding of the law. It is quite legal for existing stocks of new r12 to be used to top-up automotive systems. However it's not legal to recycle R12 to be used in auto systems.....'recovered' R12 must be destroyed (high-temp furnace). Stocks of new, legally imported R12 still exist and will do so for quite some time. The law is designed not to penalise those who imported their R12 stock legally before the import ban came into effect (as well as the retailers who held stock).

Just in the last month I had my GTR converted to R134a from R12 (it came into the country with R12 4+ years ago), BUT I had the choice of topping up with R12 if I wanted....quite legally. The difference in price was $100. I'd give you the name of the licensed company concerned to straighten you out on the details of the law, but I really don't want you bothering him with questions I've already answered here.

Anyway, believe what you will,, it makes no difference to me.

Sealed?....ok....let's go with you on that, notwithstanding the serviceability requirements that must be met in a car, compared to a fridge.

oh for goodness sake......."The law is designed not to penalise those who imported their R12 stock legally before the import ban came into effect (as well as the retailers who held stock)."

"The law is designed" to get rid of ozone depleting CFC type gasses!......not to assist in it's continuation.

Where do you (CFC accredited personnel) actually and legally buy R12 from anyway?

I have no intention of 'bothering' your friend, thankyou.