The Hoon Laws In Practice

[MLCrisis]

Firstly, my apologies for not checking up on this thread for a while!! I realise that the laws are different from state to state and that QLD may not have the same issues - yet. The point is that the various versions of these laws around Australia all share the same key characteristic - that they are fundamentally unjust and unsound and represent an attack on civil liberties. I have no doubt that many young drivers, whatever their ride, are irresponsible and need to be brought to book in some way. However, the standard laws already on the statute, for dangerous driving, reckless driving, etc. present sufficient means for that, without the imposition of laws that allow unfettered discretion to the boys in blue.

I would add that I am unable to spend the time checking threads in each state's area (daft idea, really) so I will leave this thread to those in QLD who care to think about the matter. Perhaps there are some amongst you who will appreciate the greater issue, see it as something worth fighting for and take that fight on in your own way.

Cheers.

Edited March 4, 2010 by MLCrisis

[MSTRshenanigans]

I have one but unsure when the hoon laws came in, what was the date?

[Isola]

Wow... this thread fails on spelling and grammar. If only there was a fine for that!

By the way. What are QLD's "hoon laws"? I never pay much attention to stuff you can get booked for because I'm usually not doing those things

[stagman]

Have a look over this proposed legislation. This legislation hasn't been given the green light yet...I think. http://www.rsconference.com/pdf/RS050037.pdf

[hylian]

^^ Had a quick read, document looks quite old. Around 2005/6 ish?

Out of curiosity how did you find that anyway?

[Isola]

Thanks Stagman. I had a look at it too... seems old and... umm... foolish.

[stagman]

Thanks Stagman. I had a look at it too... seems old and... umm... foolish.

A Lady who lives around the corner from me and is in a Traffic branch sent me through an email with the link. Apparently there are alot of minutes being passed on discussion how they can combat us 'hoons'. When the act is another story.

[gtp_vlbt1]

this is my favourite:

Parking up: when hoons gather in large numbers, look at each others cars, network and

arrange illegal behaviours.

I do recall reading somewhere that australia is indeed a free country. If we are going to "park up" and dick measure and spin shit who really cares?

its the land of the free...

as for the rest of it... a good lawyer said to me "cops are everywhere... just make sure your not seen doing the wrong thing"

[The_AU_Viper]

My favourite part

"it is important to note, that not all people with modified cars are guilty of illegal hoon behaviours"

seems to me they have forgotton that part

[Jonesy-r33]

I think this might be a bit off topic but here goes

first funny enough wasn't in a skyline it was in "92 magna...(shame lol) first car I owed I'd get pulled over for random breath test 7... yes that's 7 time during friday night sat and Sunday it had nothing done to it besides a single 12"sub and 2 6x9 speakers I got pulled over for not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign and he had a go at me for the way I sat in the car (back of seat on a diagonal..) let me off without a ticket lucky enough...

Again in the magna parked in front of a takeaway store with no houses in close hearing range got told my stereo was too loud (on 12 with the att button on) I then turned it down to 6 (begging to god that I don't hit it the wrong way as att cancels) I was then told to turn it down even further... I could barely hear and I was in the car.....

Next up my skyline I was stalked through slacks creek (I was looking for an import wrecker) I say stalked as they could seem to always be going the opposite way, finally when they do I get pulled over for a "random" breath test licence check and a visual inspection...

Skyline again got pulled over for on the way home from getting my cat installed when I get pulled over left in direct sunlight for half an hour while he checked my details then continue to tell me that my steering wheel isn't legal due to having no cushioning the the middle... and My bonnet isn't legal due to it's fibreglass and the only fibreglass bonnets are allowed on lancers as they come stock (I don't know if that's true but I do doubt it) once again didn't book me but he did break the wire to my bonnet pins.

Ok I drive a r33 with a veilside kit non turbo going down the warrego highway and a police car was parked stopping traffic before a turn off I'm in the right hand lane not sure as to what is happening I slowed down and stopped the female officer comes over yelling at me say "what didn't you see the cop car in the middle of the road" I slowly quietly stated that I was unaware of what was going on and didn't want to cause any problems. she then yells her reply saying "isn't it bloody obvious?" then storms off and clears a path, although it wasn't a bright move on my behalf in the first place (in my defense I had been working from 6pm to 6am and just wanted to get home) she shouldn't have gone off her tree at me and not say anything at all to the 4 other cars that were behind me doing the exact same...

Finally... Lol I don't know if this helps but it's my experiences with the boys in blue

[Rowdy]

mate got done by a chopper doing 154kmph in a 90 zone, overtaking 5 cars. in a Nissan pulsar lmao. its also his grandma's hah ha. anyway his car was impounded for 48 hours, and he lost his license for a week for every km he was over the speed limit... gotta love that judges creativity so yeah 64 weeks license loss. and also somewhere around $2500 worth of fines. . .but he had a prior offence of 120 in the same 90 zone. idiot. he deserves what he got.

[htaeh]

i was in my mates supar and the evo 10 pulled up next to us we thought nothing of it crusied from the light the evo 10 boosted past us we did nothing he slowed back down and did it agian so my mate boots it flys past him then we see red and blue lights...

he got fined $900 and 9 points

[nme032]

Good read on this topic. I think cops are assholes sometimes they are abuse there power, I have had my own experiences and heard about them all. But sometimes they are ok and just doing their job. Their jobs which is molded by silly laws and policies like Hooning.

It is a bit sad for me to read this document. It seems well at discrimination, outlining a 'Hoon' and then some real stupid stuff suggesting that all are Hoons who 'Park Up' or whatever at Harry’s Diner on a Friday night. It also goes into how younger drivers that are those below 25 years old are under peer pressure. And later describes about these youths in Warick are an example of Hoons caused by boredom and whatnot. The guy who wrote up made up these policies needs to have a better look at the youths. It maybe that youths are know finding other antisocial things to do rather than hoon and then evade the police who are driving cars that are "perceived high performance of a V8 car."

This is true crap from the ass of someone.

[nme032]

that document says some silly stuff like all are Hoons who attend Harrys Cafe on a Friday evening. It mentions how if "parked up" and we have a common interest at the time we must be planning something illegal. Gezz this stuff is a bit stupid, next thing the Terrorist policies will be used against us because we are apart of a "club" or somethin.

[waxracing]

Here is a different one

I was towing my tandem trailer with my two stand up skis on it

It wasn't registered and the trailer lights weren't going

I was threatened with the hoon law and told I could be made to leave the skis there

Lucky I am 40 years old and so command a bit more respect than a 19 year old male

I started to nut off and asked them do they really want this to hit the news, they gave me a ticket and let me on my way

[Smity42]

Solid thread bump

[Traditimeour]

Dumbass is all I can say.

[Damit]

Dumbass is all I can say.

i just love the pic they used - i could bet so much that it isnt related at all

[DAS KAMU]

Ok I bit the bullet and called Steve peck (46316777) who is in Qld Police Traffic

I just wanted to clear the air with all the smoke and mirrors and just called and asked

I was pulled for being a few mm’s to low awhile ago and the officer advised that I’ll be on the hoon list etc etc

Steve peck advised that this is correct and will stand for 3 years as it is a Type 2e offence

Where after the 4th time you then lose your car for good

and also any other car after the 4th time you will then lose your car for every type 2e offence after that

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Ill also add Steve Peck is a delightful chap to talk to and answered any questions no matter how stupid

Hope this clears up any questions if any?

[Nee-san]

Ok I bit the bullet and called Steve peck (46316777) who is in Qld Police Traffic

I just wanted to clear the air with all the smoke and mirrors and just called and asked

I was pulled for being a few mm's to low awhile ago and the officer advised that I'll be on the hoon list etc etc

Steve peck advised that this is correct and will stand for 3 years as it is a Type 2e offence

Where after the 4th time you then lose your car for good

and also any other car after the 4th time you will then lose your car for every type 2e offence after that

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Ill also add Steve Peck is a delightful chap to talk to and answered any questions no matter how stupid

Hope this clears up any questions if any?

Country is a joke.

Traffic Police are a joke.

and everyone is laughing at us.