HSV vs R33gtst

[zymotic]

OK. I'm upset now my nextdoor neighbours getting a new HSV which is going to be faster in a straight line than my car...

Please tell me mine with handle better, go round corners faster and hopefully I'll feel betta about it...

Yea i know i can get mods n stuff and that he paid $50k and i paid $20 but it still suxors

Oh yea and i know there will always be somebody faster (lots actually) but a factory commondore

[Jimbo2000]

seriously.... 50k-20k

think about it

[2fardown]

That $50k HSV will be worth $30k next year. No doubt he'll experience all the problems associated with the GenIII and the usual Holden build quality its known for.

[Maxx]

skyline should handle better in street, a lot better in the hill...

feel better?

[SHUTO-BOY]

convince him to get a GTR instead

[Sonic]

HSV will have piss-poor quality. Every one i've seen has. Mind you i'd prefer the HSV for an interstate trip...

[Guest Robo's]

Dont worry, i cruise with these guys all the time, and it will take a modded HSV to beat you. I hand it too them all the time, even a XR6 comes along too and i just beat him.

The modded ones can be quick, low 13's, they are quick on the roll too, i havent raced one of these yet but i dont think i will beat one.

Netherless ive only spent $20 and i still reckon mine looks hotter..

Ive got 178rwkw.

[Jimbo2000]

20 bucks???

nice, where can i get one

[Morgs]

The VY series has improved significantly over the previous Commodore series, in performance, handling, and in build quality - I drive them, and all sorts of new cars every day for work, but don't let the facts get in the way of a good sledge

If your car is stock, his car will be much quicker than yours. If its a new VY ii R8, it will out handle yours.

Once you get modifying, you'll be able to turn the tables.

[Driver]

i dont know much about hsv's

how many rkw's on a skyline would u need to beat, say a VY ClubSport?

[Morgs]

The VY series 2 have 285kw standard. That is the base model. They are claimed to run 13.6 sec standard by HSV, which with a decent driver should be matched.

Its hard to say what power you'd need in a Skyline to top that, but you'd need a few modifications at the least.

[Roy]

Here comes the Holdne GenIII bashing:D

Look at GTP, i see HSVs giving it to EVOs and STIs, so as far as performance goes, perhaps it will be wise to not be so quick to judge.

So HSV may not handle (ie feel/sit nice around corners etc) but they sure do generate some corner grip, and have plenty of grunt

Id like to see a comparo between a 40k R34 25GT and an R8 Clubsport, might be interesting.

As for resale, SV89/90s, 5.7L GTS (stroked 304 with 6spds) etc still fetch high teens into 20s depending on model which aint bad.

[EXIT]

Originally posted by zymotic

OK. I'm upset now my nextdoor neighbours getting a new HSV which is going to be faster in a straight line than my car...

Please tell me mine with handle better, go round corners faster and hopefully I'll feel betta about it...

There are hundreds of thousends of cars out there that are faster than your Skyline, but who really cares ?

Does it really matter ?

Similarly, there will be faster and better cars than your neighbour's HSV.

None of this matters.

What's important is that YOU like and enjoy your car - as long as you're having fun, don't worry about the rest of the planet as there will always be a faster car than yours...

So just be happy with what you've got and enjoy your ride, dude!

[zymotic]

after owning a 81 falcon, 76 escort, 79 commodore, 87 commodore I'm sure I will be happy mate.

To me straight line perfomance is only as important as ride quality and handling I think the R33 will be ample for me...

More like a case of no matter what you get you're always gonna want something better, faster etc. Maybe a result of the materialistic society we live in maybe just me maybe both.

Im sure this Wednesday when I'm driving the car up the M1 from the compliance shop to Brisbane I will be shaking with excitment and loving my new toy with a big dum grin. Probably wont even notice any HSV's and wont care if i do.

There we go i feel better already - self therapy...

[Guest RedLineGTR]

add another 30K onto your car...and see wtf happens to that "HSV" u wont see it in a drag...hahahah

[Gradenko]

The Y series HSV's are a whole lot better than previous generations. I drive a R8 regularly and like it. If your 25t is stock, the VY HSV will out accelerate and out handle you. But don't worry, a few simple mods will see you laughing .

[Maxx]

but is a R8 only worth 50k? i know a SS worth 50k+

[Gradenko]

I think a vanilla Clubsport is $60k. The only HSV's the ~$50k range are the utes.

[pentae]

hmm $50-60k for a New HSV?

Just think about the kind of GTR R33 you could get for that money and compare it to the HSV.

I think the interior of the HSV would be a lot nicer, and probably a lot easier to sell and insure.. and get you HUGE respect amongst the bogan community, which unfortunately makes up most of the Australian population it seems.

And if you still feel nervous, ask him what his repayments are

[zymotic]

Exactly I'd have the R33 GTR anyday over a new HSV plus you'd have $$$ left over to make "Godzilla"go even faster.