Best Mods 4 $5000

[rob77]

Wolf3d fitted and tuned $2000

Trust VSPL fmic $1300 delivered from japan (can be fitted by yourself if you're handy with tools, just need to cut a hole into the engine bay for the intake manifold pipe)

Bosch 910 fuel pump $220 (again can be fitted by yourself, goes into the tank, just need to modify the pump brackets)

9 puck clutch from ross @ perth autoclutch $820 (drive in and out, dont bother trying to do it yourself too hard)

Ok at $4340. So how about we go for a small internal gated turbo that will make 350hp @ wheels easily like a GT28 with a t3 flange. Would pay more than $2000 for that, again you could probably fit it all up yourself, except for maybe the water and oil lines, so lets say $150 (3 hrs of labour) to get that all done and checked. The wolf3d would be put on last as you'd have to re-tune it for the higher boost. So all up you've spent $6490. The car would easily put down 350hp @ treads, the boost response would be great as its a small turbo, only marginally bigger than the stock item. It should run a low 12 second pass on good tyres. Oh I forgot a dump+front pipe, shouldnt be more than $300-$350 to get one made up and fitted, its internaly gated so just get a combined dump pipe. Thats only $1490 over budget and it'd kick ass... so what other "support" systems do we need??

[25GTT]

Originally posted by adam 32

but be prepared to replace your clutch and fuel pump as well and already youre up around the $5,000 mark once its all tuned and fitted.

Well said adam, hit the head on the nail here, i think all of us in the r33 series and perhaps the 32 series when producing about 250rwhp + have had probs with slipping clutches, so there goes a bit of the 5G on the clutch, it is a nice mod though no power is gained but gear changes become sweet!

[summoner]

hmm.. GT30 need external gate right? so add price of that in.

or is that just the GT30R

[adam 32]

rob: youre forgetting dump + front pipe and other exhaust work as well though

i dont think you can change the std turbo for under 5K effectively... look at how much paul spent before changing his turbo (may be an extreme case) but hes reaping the rewards now as he did the support systems BEFORE bolting on a big mofo turbo

[benm]

As an example:

For my car (which includes mods from the previous owner and my own mods) to give "just power":

* HKS Pod Filter = ~$300

* Boost Controller = ~$300

* FMIC = $1800

* Full exhaust = $2000

* 520hp fuel pump = ~$340

= ~$4,740

But then to put that power to the ground and to stop (obviously not -required- but deffinetly wanted):

* Michelin Tyres = ~$1000

* Suspension = ~$2,700

* Brake Upgrade = ~$2000

= ~$5,700

Now theirs $10,440 and you havent even done other "general" things like ECU, Turbo, Injectors so for the people suggesting Turbo upgrades i'd like to see you bolt on a turbo for under $5k and see how long it lasts (but thats just my opinion).

PS, the above gave me over 200rwkw too so im quite happy with that.

[N I B]

Theirs a few people making good power in WA now by shopping smart like Robs Greddy Turbo on a factory manifold.

PER4MANZ now has the same spec turbos as Adwins that put down 350+@ 1 bar ( like the one going on Hicks car)so their a good Turbo option at a good price. Cost Grant $50000US to get his foot in the door tho but now he has a good range of turbos no one else can supply in WA.

[N I B]

I will talk to Grant about us putting a complete package together

at a good price-- Turbo- Exhaust- Cooler kit- Plugin ECU-and a Fuel pump for an approx 370rwhp application, after this you really have to go inside the engine. Your standard engine has to be spot on at this power or its gonna die.

[summoner]

had something like that in SPEED with varous workshops quoting stage 1 2 3 kits etc..

[rob77]

Originally posted by adam 32

rob: youre forgetting dump + front pipe and other exhaust work as well though

i dont think you can change the std turbo for under 5K effectively... look at how much paul spent before changing his turbo (may be an extreme case) but hes reaping the rewards now as he did the support systems BEFORE bolting on a big mofo turbo

The few differences between what paul has done compared to my car is the greddy manifold, a surge tank for his fuel and I would assume he has a large throttle body as well to suit the greddy manifold. Is that what you call "support" systems adam? For ****s sake, read my post before replying, paul and I are both making good decent power on basically a stock fuel system, all we have done is upgraded the pump. Sure if you want 400+hp then time to crack open the engine, wack in some pistons as well as fit some 550cc injectors. Come-on guys I think paul and I have proven that you dont need to spend big cash to get your car to pull 350hp @ treads. If I had my time again I would have spent a lot less on my intercooler, thats the only regret I have in my mods list. If you read my post I did make a mention of a dump+front pipe in the later half, and what other exhaust work needs to be done? A hiflow cat? *laugh* thats such an oxymoron. A cat is designed to impeed the airflow by removing the heavy metals from the emissions, you cant exactly make a cat flow better, unless you remove it or bash it out. hiflow cat... no such thing. Its like a "hiflowed" turbo... bullshit, its a new turbo essentially. They replaced the exhaust wheel, they put a bigger compressor cover on and they've machined out the exhaust housing... wow a hiflowed turbo. If you look at the cost of "hiflowing" your exisiting turbo its very simular to the price of a new turbo... gee I wonder why. Gus has also proved that changing the stock intercooler on the stock turbo is a waste of dollars, his car performs well with the power fc, stock turbo and stock intercooler. I'm getting tired of all the shit that gets dribbled on here.

[PSIKO]

Originally posted by rob77

For ****s sake, read my post before replying

perhaps read HISPI's post as well and you'll see he has a budget of $5k not $6.5k so you can back up ur original post

What you mentioned is what we've been saying, with the addition of a turbo pretty much to extend the costs way beyond his budget

In addition to a clutch on my original list I'd also carry out a leakdown test too, just to be sure :uh-huh:

[rob77]

He also wants to achieve 350hp, he wont do that on the stock turbo.

[Hicks]

Originally posted by Pva_Glue

Tubos

FMIC

SAFC

the list goes on and on.... but I tell you if you are seriouse about modifying skylines you'll end up grabbing GTR

????......What are you on about??

The guys just bought a gtst and your tellin him to buy a gtr if he's serious about modifying it.... I think theres a few people here with gtst's who are serious about modifying them, and last time I checked they were still gtst's. And why have you got tubos at the top of the list? That will be way down....and he only needs one.

Don't mean to bitch.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

My personal suggestion is to start with the basics which have been outlined. I like to experience each stage of power, rather than jump too far and have a beast which your not ready to handle.

Just simple mods like a dumps and FMIC will provide a significant jump in power which will keep you happy for a few months:D

[adam 32]

Come-on guys I think paul and I have proven that you dont need to spend big cash to get your car to pull 350hp @ treads

i think you should ask paul what hes spent

cos it aint exactly within the 5000 budget. and yes, i did read your post. you suggested putting on a GT30

[adam 32]

They replaced the exhaust wheel, they put a bigger compressor cover on and they've machined out the exhaust housing... wow a hiflowed turbo. If you look at the cost of "hiflowing" your exisiting turbo its very simular to the price of a new turbo... gee I wonder why

macka has run a 12.98 on one of your crappy 'high-flowed' turbos which still stands as the fastest R33 gtst on the forum i believe. he makes full boost by 3500rpm which alot more driveable than the 4500rpm lagmonsters going around today. do some research cos i believe you are the one 'dribbling shit'

[GTS-t VSPEC]

I sure have spent more than $5000, but I'm aiming for much bigger power than 350rwhp, so in the end I've been builing up a foundation. I'm very happy with my results so far.

Yes you can achieve 350rwhp with alot less than I have spent, there are a number of bolt-on turbo's hitting the market which provide good power and great response.

[Guest Robo's]

Ok guys, i think the $$$$ wise its going to extreme now.

This is my recommendations:

This is my expenses so far

Well most imports allready have a cat back exhaust. Youd be unlucky not to get one allready on.

Front pipe and cat $400

SAFC + tune $ 550

Air box + filter $150

Bleed valve $ 100

So far $1200, theres a FMIC and pipes deal going for $1100, cam gear maybe $200 = $2,500

As for turbos, i havent really looked or know enough about to give any examples.

All in all, so far pretty cheap

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Robo, I'd agree except with the SAFC, if your eventual aim is 350rwhp I'd tend to go for full management. No point doing things twice, plus a number of the aftermarket ECU's also have in-built boost controllers.

[EVL R33]

If I had to do my old GTS again with 5k spending money and starting with only cat back zorst and pod filter I'd go as follows:

1. Suspension @ $1,500

2. GTR FMIC fitted @ $1,000 ($700 for cooler, $300 for pipes and fitting)

3. ECU PFC with H/C and Boost @ $2,000, Wolf 3D around the same.

4. front/dump pipe to 'hiflow cat special' @ $600??

You could then run around 12psi safely and have a good handling car that makes circa 250rwhp.

Problem you will have is once you bite the mod bug it bites back really bad and it will be VERY hard to stop at 5k... Let us know when you pass 10k in mods...

Brett

[benm]

Originally posted by EVL R33

Problem you will have is once you bite the mod bug it bites back really bad and it will be VERY hard to stop at 5k...   Let us know when you pass 10k in mods...  

I'd have an R33 GTR sitting in my driveway about now if I didn't get caught by the mod bug grrr :bahaha:

Its more of an addiction than drugs (although i've never touched drugs in my life I can only assume).