New Point Demerits Schedule

[GTR-N1]

Purely on the issue of XS speed...

It's now possible that as of March, excessive speed to the tune of...

a) 1-10Km/Hr over the limit = loss of 1 point

b) 11-30Km/Hr over the limit = loss of 2 points

c) 31-45Km/Hr over the limit = loss of 3 points

d) >46Km/Hr over the limit = ???

These spectra/penalties are being discussed at present...

[The Bogan]

I can see it now,"Sir did you realise you were doing 101kph in a 100kph zone"

Thought there was some kind of factor for speedo calibration being out.

[Primordial]

Generally it's 10% on most speed cameras. Not sure about Lidar guns..?

[nIsMo86]

Sounds better than the old scheme. I lost 3 points for 11 over mid last year.

[N1GTR]

Yeah this is actually better for people running late than ever before

[Sl!m]

Source?

[Vik]

Daily Telegraph. 2nd or 3rd Page.

Havent researched but NRMA are pushing for it.

MRXTCZ

[Kujotk]

they should do it,,,,, loosing 3 demerit points for anything under 30 is rediculous but if your doing over 30+ its only an extra 1 demerit point......

also the fines are stupid, under 10km/h should be a small fine and small demerit loss, 9 times out of 10 your not intentionally speeding.... but there should be some sort of punnishment to remind motorists.

anything from 30+ really should be a heavy fine and a heavy demerit loss (which it already is)... but on todays system if your weighing up the odds of speeding and getting caught, i'd be going as fast as i can since the Under 15km/h is already too harsh, alittle more cash and a slightly worse demerit record doesnt really bother anyone if the lesser penalty is nearly as bad as the worse penalty (except for some instances of suspension)...

the current system is a fail, it encourages speeders to speed more coz they know the 3 demerit point loss of under 15km/h isnt much different from 4 demerrit point loss of 45km/hr+++++

[GoldZilla]

anything from 30+ really should be a heavy fine and a heavy demerit loss (which it already is)... but on todays system if your weighing up the odds of speeding and getting caught, i'd be going as fast as i can since the Under 15km/h is already too harsh, alittle more cash and a slightly worse demerit record doesnt really bother anyone if the lesser penalty is nearly as bad as the worse penalty (except for some instances of suspension)...

the current system is a fail, it encourages speeders to speed more coz they know the 3 demerit point loss of under 15km/h isnt much different from 4 demerrit point loss of 45km/hr+++++

Don't forget that it's already an automatic license suspension for anything 30+km/h over the speed limit, isn't it?

What they should be doing (and people will keep discussing this, but it will probably never happen, which is even more frustrating) is

• teaching people to KEEP LEFT on major freeways if they're not bloody well overtaking
  
• RAISE the speed limits in areas where the road and conditions are appropriate
  
• crack down on speeding during school zone times (I FULLY support this, my mind set is "imagine that was my kid/niece/nephew who almost got run over")
  
• making people more alert to what's going on around them, not just in that road space directly in front of their own car
  

In my mind, COMMON COURTESY would go a long way to changing people's attitudes on the roads.

As for catching people 1-10km/h over and fining them for that, I'm sure Mark (mlr) and I won't be the only people to debate the fact that this would go against the Federal ADRs stating that there's a 10% margin for error on speedometers on all new cars, so how could a driver possibly know that they are travelling at EXACTLY 60km/h in a 60 zone? And for that matter, shouldn't they be more focussed on the environment around their moving car than that little bunch of numbers on the dashboard?

I could go on forever, and I know plenty of you all will also have some good suggestions here too.

[GTR-32U]

Don't forget that it's already an automatic license suspension for anything 30+km/h over the speed limit, isn't it?

What they should be doing (and people will keep discussing this, but it will probably never happen, which is even more frustrating) is

• teaching people to KEEP LEFT on major freeways if they're not bloody well overtaking
  
• RAISE the speed limits in areas where the road and conditions are appropriate
  
• crack down on speeding during school zone times (I FULLY support this, my mind set is "imagine that was my kid/niece/nephew who almost got run over")
  
• making people more alert to what's going on around them, not just in that road space directly in front of their own car
  

In my mind, COMMON COURTESY would go a long way to changing people's attitudes on the roads.

As for catching people 1-10km/h over and fining them for that, I'm sure Mark (mlr) and I won't be the only people to debate the fact that this would go against the Federal ADRs stating that there's a 10% margin for error on speedometers on all new cars, so how could a driver possibly know that they are travelling at EXACTLY 60km/h in a 60 zone? And for that matter, shouldn't they be more focussed on the environment around their moving car than that little bunch of numbers on the dashboard?

I could go on forever, and I know plenty of you all will also have some good suggestions here too.

yeah some really good points there,

And if I may add people needing to be educated on how to properly merge onto Motorways/freeways. The common Sydney trend being to cruise down that ramp doing 60kmh when the speed sign early on the ramp says 100kmh.Then getting to the merging point and braking because cars are coming up on them so fast. Meanwhile a traffic jam behind starts to build as all who approach that motorway ramp have to slow down to 60 for said morons

[Bakes]

I hope it coms in, heaps better than the current set up

[Deano45]

The Roads Minister Michael Daley was on Nova this morning, saying that he was going to keep his promise of trying to get the points reduced for minor speeding offenses. Would like this politician to keep his promise as the demerit points for the minor speeding offense are ridiculous.

[nIsMo86]

yeah some really good points there,

And if I may add people needing to be educated on how to properly merge onto Motorways/freeways. The common Sydney trend being to cruise down that ramp doing 60kmh when the speed sign early on the ramp says 100kmh.Then getting to the merging point and braking because cars are coming up on them so fast. Meanwhile a traffic jam behind starts to build as all who approach that motorway ramp have to slow down to 60 for said morons

I completely agree GTR-32U. That is one of my pet hates of the stupid things people do on the road. Some people definately need education in this department.

I was driving to Tamworth on the F3 once and a person in a falcon did this to me right in front of a HWP cop who was behind me trying to clock my speed. The cop nearly ran up my arse as i braked for the idiot. The cop instantly gave up on me and pulled over and reversed back and busted the idiot in the falcon. Was good to see

[GoldZilla]

yeah some really good points there,

And if I may add people needing to be educated on how to properly merge onto Motorways/freeways. The common Sydney trend being to cruise down that ramp doing 60kmh when the speed sign early on the ramp says 100kmh.Then getting to the merging point and braking because cars are coming up on them so fast. Meanwhile a traffic jam behind starts to build as all who approach that motorway ramp have to slow down to 60 for said morons

Yep, I, too agree on this!

[pbk1776]

This is really Good. I heard this aswell from the Radio yesterday.....

[eeiko321]

Purely on the issue of XS speed...

It's now possible that as of March, excessive speed to the tune of...

a) 1-10Km/Hr over the limit = loss of 1 point

b) 11-30Km/Hr over the limit = loss of 2 points

c) 31-45Km/Hr over the limit = loss of 3 points

d) >46Km/Hr over the limit = ???

These spectra/penalties are being discussed at present...

this is really great news for us road commuters...

but then again...

im guessing this will make people be more inclined to speed....since there is less damage to your points...

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm intresting to see what the public says..

[4teecal]

The offences of less than 15KM/H are nearly entirely issued by the Speed cameras. Police tend to worry about al lthe others. Now they will be getting you for 10k over the limit rather than close to 20 over.

[The Bogan]

It annoys me when the police sit on hwys and other areas that are safe for the higher posted speeds but where are they in the suburbs, my local area is 50kph zone which is fair because of all the kids around, blind corners and round-abouts, but idiots cruise around doing 80 kph or more, drifting around round-abouts and generaly being dicks, but not a cop to be seen.

[FloydWestwood]

the new law should read: "get the f**k in the left lane or die"

[GTR-N1]

This is really Good. I heard this aswell from the Radio yesterday.....

Yes Raf,

It was an interview with Mr Corrigan. That was my source Sam btw...

Cheers