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T04GTR
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hey ive got till the end of 2010 till im licenced

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NZM.031 Grand Master

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having modified every car ive ever owned, even the shitters and dailys... ill always start with a stocker and build it into something thats just what i want.. it gives you something to do, something to look forward to and something to be proud of in the end. you get to take a standard car and make it better by fitting better components, adding adjustments, etc. without losing the spirit of the original car

buying someone elses car will never be like building your own, it will always be theirs... your just driving it now, unless youve had a hand in the build, you wont know what exactly has gone into such a car, and i dont mean component wise.

it also shows that you're not interested in the build, in the processes that a car goes through to get to a stage, in the highs and lows, the friendships, the emotions, the whole thing. you just want a fast car without putting in the hard yards.

wheres the respect and pride in that?

thats why people hate buying a modified car.

*thats not directed at you as a personal attack... just a conceived notion* :D

cheers

Linton

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Marko R1

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now all of you repeat after me:

The RB30E was also sold in the R31, not just the VL!

yes, this is my story moving forward if anyone asks about the rb30 :D

i had a vl turbo a few years back, stock with 15psi & i blew off a new m3 with sequential box (what a laugh that was)

in all seriousness though, the only decent thing about that vl was the engine & i'd tell me mates "this is a nissan engine"...the rest of the car was pffft!

T04GTR Grand Master

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yeah well im gonna build up a bottom end ive decided. why the hell not!! it will be a good comparison aswell.

rb26 with S372@2bar vs rb26/30 with S372@2 bar.. might evan throw it in annas car to see :P she loves "bedding in" my parts lol..

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yeah well im gonna build up a bottom end ive decided. why the hell not!! it will be a good comparison aswell.

rb26 with S372@2bar vs rb26/30 with S372@2 bar.. might evan throw it in annas car to see ;) she loves "bedding in" my parts lol..

Hoooooray!

SLAPS Rising Star

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having modified every car ive ever owned, even the shitters and dailys... ill always start with a stocker and build it into something thats just what i want.. it gives you something to do, something to look forward to and something to be proud of in the end. you get to take a standard car and make it better by fitting better components, adding adjustments, etc. without losing the spirit of the original car

buying someone elses car will never be like building your own, it will always be theirs... your just driving it now, unless youve had a hand in the build, you wont know what exactly has gone into such a car, and i dont mean component wise.

it also shows that you're not interested in the build, in the processes that a car goes through to get to a stage, in the highs and lows, the friendships, the emotions, the whole thing. you just want a fast car without putting in the hard yards.

wheres the respect and pride in that?

thats why people hate buying a modified car.

*thats not directed at you as a personal attack... just a conceived notion* :)

cheers

Linton

IMO nothing to do with respect and pride.

I bought the r32 a little over 8 years ago with the goal for it to have a built rb20 that was quick, reliable and enjoyable.

I honestly thought and still think its a damn ugly car but what sold me was the drive; the chassis feedback, handling and at one with the car feel. Something the V8 Commodores can't get near.

I test drove a few R33's and didn't like the feel; felt too much like a Commodore for some reason. The R32 actually felt like a sports car.

When it comes to cars pride and joy really doesn't come in to it for me, I modify the car because I want it to be fast; it doesn't have bling, it doesn't have rice, big bodgy body kits or a silly sounding BOV. :P

When I first started out I bought a stocker because I didn't like the idea of a modified car already being 'thrashed'. Having a fair experience with v8 Commodores and VL's thrashed = no end of problems. The Skylines are tough cars that take a flogging so its not so much a worry.

My main niggle is spending $$ on silly little things like better diffs, ecu, injectors where as if its already done you don't have to spend as much and hear the missus complain why I have to spend 1.2k on a diff etc. :P

We all modify cars for different reasons. You modify for pride, respect I modify for the raw thrill and challenge of holding the car in a straight line.

I've been toying with the idea dropping in a VQ35 or VQ40 with a turbo or two. Even had thoughts of a little LS1 with a turbo strapped on but to be honest the LS1 is a little overkill. VQ35 or VQ40 with a turbo pushing 450-500rwkw will be more than enough and still have stellar response/spool.

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I went a little O/T then but what I was getting at is people a modified car as possibly being thrashed and ready to fall apart when they purchase it.

IMO people tend to rather save a few thousand on the purchase price and go with the stocker rather than spend an extra few thousand and save 5-10k on parts.

If there was a GTR/GTST with a big single bolted on to forged bottom end.. I would highly consider its purchase if I were in the market.

Doesn't stop me throwing a forged RB30 bottom end at it for 6k and a larger turbo again.

Could possible save me spending $$ on ecu, afms (if applicable), possibly clutch, diff, suspension, fuel pump etc. :)

Really depends on the cars mods, age of mods etc if buying a modified car is worth it or not.

In saying that I wouldn't bother buying a setup like dirts UNLESS it was for dirt cheap. When people modify cars such as Dirts they tend to ask 10-15k over the normal purchase price of a stocker so IMO I'd rather do it myself for that cost.

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In saying that I wouldn't bother buying a setup like dirts UNLESS it was for dirt cheap. When people modify cars such as Dirts they tend to ask 10-15k over the normal purchase price of a stocker so IMO I'd rather do it myself for that cost.

My car was only worth what someone was willing to pay for it. I offered my car at 1/2 of the build cost but due to the unpopularity of drag cars with the Skyline community it didn't sell. I knocked back a $45K offer for it due to it being worth more to me than that amount. I know of 2 modified R32 GTR's that in the last 2 years that have sold for around double that offer and id say the sellers still lost quite a bit of money that they had invested in them.

I bought our car bog stock as i have the resources to build it up to what i want it to be...that way no hidden surprises and with stock cars they are easier to compare against each other when looking to purchase. For some people its easier and less painful to buy one already done, and with the right car a bargain can be found. If i did buy a modified car it would be looked at for the sum of its parts and not the car itself. It would be ground up rebuilt anyway and any faults or improvements made as the build progressed. One of my close friends bought a modified GTR that had an engine failure the first time it saw the dyno, he paid a premium for it and now owes him over $70K. We could have built the same car a lot cheaper if he had brought a stocker (i dont charge him any labour to work on his car as he is a mate) as most of the good bits that he paid extra for were a throw-away when the engine expired. But not everyone is in the same position as we are to do our own work. Each car purchase comes with a different set of circumstances in regards to owner and intended use etc.

This is way off topic though...lets get back to the RB vs RB comparo

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