Winding Back The Clock.

[KezR33]

Hey guys, I'm looking at buying an R34, but I'm wondering how easy it is to wind back the odometer. I know unlike the R32 and R33 they have a digital reader, but does this make a difference at all?

With an analog one I'm sure you could just pull it apart and reassemble it with a lower reading, or manually wind it back, but can you some how reprogam a digital one?

Is it possible to do a complete cluster swap?

When looking for my old 33 I was very wary of extreme low km examples because I simply didn't believe them, but R34's aren't quite as old. Do genuine ~50,000km R34s still exist or are they likely wound back too?

Thanks.

[Iron Chef]

It's just as easy to do. Check the general condition of the seats, pedals, gearknob etc. A 50,000km should still look fairly good. Low-km examples do exist. My car has a legit 23,800km on it, with books.

[GTR-32U]

Yes electronic odometres can be wound back. Talk to any good auto electricians who specialise in clusters and they will tell you that. However good luck finding anyone who will do it due to it being illegal and all. But yeah I have often wondered about many of these low K imports. When you look at them and the steering wheel looks like a Rotty has been gnawing it,pedals worn on one corner , Gear stick boot and handbrake boot worn right through the black etc...Probably more so in the earlier imports than nowadays

[VB-]

^if you cant find someone to do it your not trying.

as said, go off condition of the car, not km's

[Bakes]

Get the motor compression tested also. If it gets a good result should be sweet

[skyline-driver]

you can do a clustor swap its easier. but if u wanna do it manually you have to hook up a machine to it and wind it down to wat ever u want. just go to small shops or go with a friend who knows sum1 in a small auto shop. my mate always do it with holdens

[Ronin 09]

the beauty of electronic speedos is that you can't even tell that they've been tampered with - unlike mechanical ones, where the numbers may not line up properly

[gotRICE?]

the beauty of electronic speedos is that you can't even tell that they've been tampered with - unlike mechanical ones, where the numbers may not line up properly

Depends on what side of the scam your on tho doesnt it?

Its a beauty scheme if your doing the scamming, but not so much to the poor guy that buys a 40,000km R34 with 160,000km on the seats.

[msports180]

I think this post has been competely taken out of context?

[Ronin 09]

yeah even I'm not that much of a carnt

[skyline-driver]

I think this post has been competely taken out of context?

well i hope that u know that all the skylines that come from japan have been winded down, an auto wrecker said and i wont mention his name he saw it with his own eyes they wind the clock down when the car is sold and then they send it to australia and people buy it thinking its genuine Ks .

Edited March 1, 2009 by skyline-driver

[trel]

and anyone that thinks that ANY car that comes from japan has legit k's is smokin' crack! friend of mine bought a 99 silvia with 45k on the odo... enough said!

[skyline-driver]

any skyline that comes from japan has done at least 100k more than it says so if its 70k it means 170k or more

[gotRICE?]

any skyline that comes from japan has done at least 100k more than it says so if its 70k it means 170k or more

Thats rubbish. Its pretty easy to see if the KM are genuine by the general wear and tear of the interior.

If you buy a car with 50K km on the clock, and the steering wheel is worn down to the nub, the carpet is worn to the metal, and the corners of the pedals are gone, then your a twat for thinking its genuine.

[Kujotk]

Thats rubbish. Its pretty easy to see if the KM are genuine by the general wear and tear of the interior.

If you buy a car with 50K km on the clock, and the steering wheel is worn down to the nub, the carpet is worn to the metal, and the corners of the pedals are gone, then your a twat for thinking its genuine.

New steering, wheel, aftermarket gear knob, car previously had floor mats, new seats from wreckers or stolen and a simple re tread of the peddals... takes no more than 10 minutes to change all these and someone could source all these parts for free if they were in the game, fuel addatives to quite down the engine and stop smoke...... and if they were really serious they'd put thick oil in the gear box to stop the box from being noisey....

95% of pople will have no proof that the 50 000km odometer on a 12 year old car arnt real....

[Kujotk]

It's just as easy to do. Check the general condition of the seats, pedals, gearknob etc. A 50,000km should still look fairly good. Low-km examples do exist. My car has a legit 23,800km on it, with books.

and i'm not saying that your example hasnt got legit km's but it is possible to fake the books and get dodgey receipts that can proove what ever you want to prove. especially if the guy doing the scam (and theres a lot of them) has owned the car from brand new, drives it around where ever, has falsified the books from the beginning by constantly typing in the false odometer reading whenever the car will be officially seen by a 3rd party

[Ronin 09]

it's funny isn't it that all these low km cars, which people are fastidious about maintaining, and service every 5000kms, somehow lose the books when they come to Australia....

[Angus Smart]

I think its easier and less noticeable to wind back a digital one compared to a manual dial dash..

[GTR-N1]

I guess the only reassurance I have, is that my pedals are like new, the bolsters are like new, the steering wheel is like new, the upholstery is like new, carpets are like new & it smells like new and...

the last Japanese Service Entry in the Japanese Log Book is shortly before the auction and the 2 entries correspond.

However, I could not say that what with a missing log book from the R33 GT-R that I sold 5 years ago.

[FloydWestwood]

realisitically it's always gonna be in the back of your head that the car probably has had something dodgy done to it. thats the risk of buying used imports. So there's not much point whinging about it. People will do anything to make a sale, which in turn gives the buyer less trust in the seller. If it's like that here in Australia, then think about trying to buy a car from a used car salesman in a different country with different road laws and regulations, and speak different language - of course your car isn't gonna be exactly as you expect it to be...

*There are some good used car selespeople out there, i'm not having a dig at you.