Brand New Timing Belt....

[blitz r33]

i recently got a expensive good brand timing belt put on my car and my water pump done as well because it was making a fluttering noise and my mate said it might be the water pump & it sounded like it was screwed.

picked my car up and paid half the cash and started it up and the fluttering noise which was coming from where the water pump was heaps worse than normal so i got out and asked did you do my water pump and he said yeah and informed me cars make that noise after a while so i said how come all my mates with their skylines which are older models then mine don't make that noise?

he said he didn't know which i replied with a get f**ked you lazy bastard and he told me he wants the rest of the money.

the next day i started the car and its was screeching for like a minute stationary or if i accelerate forward it stops, noise was coming from where my new belt was.

it keeps doing this if the car sits there for like half a day and start it up.

the noise is like when you hear a guy start up a really old ford falcon and you hear it screeching when he drives off.

could it need tightening as its a brand new one?

im gonna see another mechanic my mates take their turbo cars to and if he says that the water pumps screwed that other mech is gonna hear about it and he better give my money back.

do you think it is a stuffed water pump for it to keep making a loud fluttering noise? it dont do it all the time but when it does its pretty load.

thanks guys.

[RBPOWA-(TJ)]

alternator belt .

tension check by touch, if there is some give, its need tightening,

just had my 100,000k service done, pump and all belts, and plus there new, let them wear in, but also get them tightened. not to tight though, if you put to much strain on the alternator and can wear out the bearing at the back of the alternator i think, its connected to the pulley that spins it.

hope that helps, i get about 3seconds of screeching now, not 1min like before

[eeiko321]

i recently got a expensive good brand timing belt put on my car and my water pump done as well because it was making a fluttering noise and my mate said it might be the water pump & it sounded like it was screwed.

picked my car up and paid half the cash and started it up and the fluttering noise which was coming from where the water pump was heaps worse than normal so i got out and asked did you do my water pump and he said yeah and informed me cars make that noise after a while so i said how come all my mates with their skylines which are older models then mine don't make that noise?

he said he didn't know which i replied with a get f**ked you lazy bastard and he told me he wants the rest of the money.

the next day i started the car and its was screeching for like a minute stationary or if i accelerate forward it stops, noise was coming from where my new belt was.

it keeps doing this if the car sits there for like half a day and start it up.

the noise is like when you hear a guy start up a really old ford falcon and you hear it screeching when he drives off.

could it need tightening as its a brand new one?

im gonna see another mechanic my mates take their turbo cars to and if he says that the water pumps screwed that other mech is gonna hear about it and he better give my money back.

do you think it is a stuffed water pump for it to keep making a loud fluttering noise? it dont do it all the time but when it does its pretty load.

thanks guys.

let me try undertand a little more......

did you take it to a dodgy mechanic? and was the water pump brand new???

well it sounds like it could be 2 things at this point.....the water pump pulley or the Engine crank pulley?

what happens if you have the bonnet open whilst revving?....does this happen or only when the engine is on a load?

i wouldnt be paying him anymore more money till this is sorted....

[RBPOWA-(TJ)]

oh yeah timing belt wont make screeching sound. . . . as it has teeth and cogs running it.

did you change your tensioner and cam bearing also ? being an r33 94 thats 15yrs, they'd be on there way out i'd say

[blitz r33]

let me try undertand a little more......

did you take it to a dodgy mechanic? and was the water pump brand new???

well it sounds like it could be 2 things at this point.....the water pump pulley or the Engine crank pulley?

what happens if you have the bonnet open whilst revving?....does this happen or only when the engine is on a load?

i wouldnt be paying him anymore more money till this is sorted....

from what people have told me recently he's dodgy i wish i knew that before i seen him,people say they have asked for a oil change and spark plugs and he only changed the oil,reused the oil filter and when they checked the spark plugs they were putrid,a mate told me he needed new bearings in something cause they were making a noise,he paid for brand new ones and found out the guy greased up the old ones.

the thing is the prick never gives out receipts so there is no proof you even went to him.

i asked for a brand new water pump but i doubt he even did it,i asked him if it was a pulley but everytime

i brought the car to him it didn't make the noise cause it only does it every now & again.

as for the screeching today i started the car up to mow the lawn and it did it again even when i was driving it kept going then stopped,mowed the lawn started it to put it back and screeched again.

i have opened the bonnet when it screeched and it sounded in the area of the timing belt and it stopped after a bit,revved the car & sounded normal it only really happens when i start the car cause the car shudders like anything when i start it and the revs are real low like almost stalling then they go up to 2000rpm after 7 secs and when its warmed up stays at 1000rpm,i also told him about that as well and he said i don't know,f**k hes lazy.

it never use to do that until my mate took off the rocker covers to paint them yellow and he took off the plenum to clean it cause it was filthy,he put it back together now the revs are too high so i have no idea what he has done to it.

[eeiko321]

from what people have told me recently he's dodgy i wish i knew that before i seen him,people say they have asked for a oil change and spark plugs and he only changed the oil,reused the oil filter and when they checked the spark plugs they were putrid,a mate told me he needed new bearings in something cause they were making a noise,he paid for brand new ones and found out the guy greased up the old ones.

the thing is the prick never gives out receipts so there is no proof you even went to him.

i asked for a brand new water pump but i doubt he even did it,i asked him if it was a pulley but everytime

i brought the car to him it didn't make the noise cause it only does it every now & again.

as for the screeching today i started the car up to mow the lawn and it did it again even when i was driving it kept going then stopped,mowed the lawn started it to put it back and screeched again.

i have opened the bonnet when it screeched and it sounded in the area of the timing belt and it stopped after a bit,revved the car & sounded normal it only really happens when i start the car cause the car shudders like anything when i start it and the revs are real low like almost stalling then they go up to 2000rpm after 7 secs and when its warmed up stays at 1000rpm,i also told him about that as well and he said i don't know,f**k hes lazy.

it never use to do that until my mate took off the rocker covers to paint them yellow and he took off the plenum to clean it cause it was filthy,he put it back together now the revs are too high so i have no idea what he has done to it.

firstly, im sorry to hear of your misfortune.

what you've confused me again...is:

a dodgy mechanic did the timing belt...and did some sort of full service. and changed the water pump and supposedly regreased some bearings.

but you've told us that this was the cause.

though in your second post ...it may not be hes dodgy work but a "Friend" of yours...(im guessing who isnt the mechanic) removed the plenum, throttle body etc

and since he did that...thats the culprit?

its hard to say withought seeing, but can you get access to it?...open the cover and see if its over tightened...

a good way to tell if it is the pulley.. you use a rod or a long screwdriver..place it on the nut that pivots the pulley and put it against your ear to listen.

it should have a smooth even sound....

hmmmm

well did he clean the throttle body?..are you sure he knew what he was doing?...sometimes things can get jammed in it whilst cleaning, causing irregular idle. i would inspect everything again.

what does the idle on the RB25DET on your user handbook say?

and by the way...which mechanic is it?.....you may warn other fellow members to steer clear from this mechanic...

[blitz r33]

firstly, im sorry to hear of your misfortune.

what you've confused me again...is:

a dodgy mechanic did the timing belt...and did some sort of full service. and changed the water pump and supposedly regreased some bearings.

but you've told us that this was the cause.

though in your second post ...it may not be hes dodgy work but a "Friend" of yours...(im guessing who isnt the mechanic) removed the plenum, throttle body etc

and since he did that...thats the culprit?

its hard to say withought seeing, but can you get access to it?...open the cover and see if its over tightened...

a good way to tell if it is the pulley.. you use a rod or a long screwdriver..place it on the nut that pivots the pulley and put it against your ear to listen.

it should have a smooth even sound....

hmmmm

well did he clean the throttle body?..are you sure he knew what he was doing?...sometimes things can get jammed in it whilst cleaning, causing irregular idle. i would inspect everything again.

what does the idle on the RB25DET on your user handbook say?

and by the way...which mechanic is it?.....you may warn other fellow members to steer clear from this mechanic...

no,he didn't grease any bearings on my car it was another mates,all the mech did on my skyline was the timing belt and supposedly the water pump.

my mate did my rocker covers about a month before i got the timing belt done,yeah he took the rocker covers off and painted them and put in new spark plugs and we noticed the throttle body was putrid it was black with filth so he took off the throttle body and the plenum and the AAC valve and gave it a thorough clean with carby cleaner then degreaser and he put it back together.

the car was running smoother but then we noticed the revs were staying at 1200 rpm and my mate said not to worry about it.

some guys on here told me to turn the idle srew in and the revs are now at 1000rpm but before all this happened it sat on 850rpm.

the car does shudder alot when i start it up for the first time in the day and the revs stay really low around 400-450rpm like its gonna stall for a little while then it shoots up to 2200rpm then when it warms up sits on 1000rpm.

about a month later is when i got the the timing belt and water pump done.

im gonna go see the other mechanic tomorrow cause he wanted me to bring it in to have a look and i will tell him all the things that are wrong with it and hopefully he can fix it all,i will ask him to replace all the old belts and get him to take a look at the water pump while hes got the cover off.

yeah whatever my mate did is the culprit for the over revving,for all i know he stuffed the throttle body all he didnt put a gasket on properly.

[Mr500]

mate, sounds like your mate damaged a gasket when doing the plenum stuff, if it leaks vac at idle you will be lossing boost and power up top.

if you remove the cam belt cover and look down in there you should be able to see if the water pump ins new and shiney.