JMW Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Best clamps i've been told to use by many (one of which being Keir Willson) are the ABW or Norma all stainless clamps. The t-bolt clamps spread the load out over a too wider area, thus reducing the clamping force Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/259242-intercooler-clampsnot-the-average-sht/page/2/#findComment-4454818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
quarkgun Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I don't know if this suits your application, but i found this entry on the autospeed blog yesterday: http://blog.autospeed.com/2009/02/19/an-amazing-bargain/ Excerpt: "For just AUD$64.90 you get 150 stainless steel hose clamps to suit hoses from 6mm to 60mm. The clamps are packaged in boxes and appear to be of good quality." Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/259242-intercooler-clampsnot-the-average-sht/page/2/#findComment-4454846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
femno Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Regular Tridon Worm Drive Hose Clamps and Turbosmart 3" Silicon joiners. (yes even though GTR pipes are 3 1/4") HKS Hard pipe kit. 1.5 - 1.6 Bar of boost all day, no dramas EVER! Never ever had one pop off. I usually squirt oil into the head so it tightens up nice and easy. To eliminate the clamps cutting into the silicon, I have smooth bevelled-edge rings on the inside of the clamps with 2 little ribs on the inside. Why spend so much on flancy bling-clamps when regular clamps used properly do just fine. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/259242-intercooler-clampsnot-the-average-sht/page/2/#findComment-4455250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 steve mate, you can't just buy and use wiggins clamps. they are a completely different style of fitting are not designed to work with normal piping and silicone joiners and require you weld fittings to each piece of pipe to be joined. they work very similarly to V-band type systems where you have a machined flat flange on each piece of pipe that butt together then a clamp over the top. except the wiggins clamps also have some kind of membrane to make them seal better. they cost a shitload and then you pay again for remove all your piping and modify it all to suit. and you can toss all your silicone joiners away too. not worth it. I use and swear by sard dual bead clamps. unlike cheap arse hose clamps (and even many t-bolt type clamps) that are just a flat strap around your silicone the sard dual bead clamps have 2 'ridges' aka 'beads' that create a high pressure point and seal. they also have an inner piece (the dual bead bit with edges folded back 90 degrees) and then the strap on the outside so that it doesn't rip into your silicone as it spins around. most of the cheap t-bolt clamps are not much good either as they are just a flat strap type clamp too and all they do is exert a metric f**kload of force onto your piping which is NOT what is needed. a good lip/flare on the pipe is important as is good quality joiner (they ultra thick cheap ones aren't always good) and then a good clamp appropriately tightened. the good news is sard just repackage someone elses dual bead clamps. I can't remember the brand but if you could find them direct they could be even cheaper than buying from sard. pics: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/259242-intercooler-clampsnot-the-average-sht/page/2/#findComment-4455418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM-R33 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Their similar to the turbosmart hose clamps aren't they? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/259242-intercooler-clampsnot-the-average-sht/page/2/#findComment-4455422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin 09 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I wouldn't be super keen with the solid mounted clamps in your first post - Wouldn't there need to be an element of flex to allow for the motor rocking when torqing? solid mounting the joins would surely be a recipe for cracks and failure... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/259242-intercooler-clampsnot-the-average-sht/page/2/#findComment-4455823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARLORD Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 HDI are now selling ones similar to the Wiggins jobbies but they just clip together instead of using pins.I had a look at them when I got my boost controller a few weeks back, reasonably priced to. in the next week or so my setup will have the hdi ones about 5 of them and there largest intercooler. if anyone cares ill post some pics of the hole job from start to end thats if someone whats me to. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/259242-intercooler-clampsnot-the-average-sht/page/2/#findComment-4455974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano4127 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Race Spec make some really tidy Billet alloy ones http://racespec.com.au/product_info.php?cP...products_id=547 I dont personaly run them but when I have some extra coin I would like to swap some out to these I am running the $13 autobarn Tbolt jobbies at the mo without any dramas Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/259242-intercooler-clampsnot-the-average-sht/page/2/#findComment-4456059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phobic Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 i have seen a setup in which they used the t-bar clamps but had a small metal brace setup between each hard pipe so that if the clamp was failing the pipes couldnt separate anyway. similar to the setup on slide together exhaust piping where the pipe slides into the next with a small metal bracket or spring to hold them together Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/259242-intercooler-clampsnot-the-average-sht/page/2/#findComment-4456121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozodos Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Beer Baron were you able to recall in the end what the alternate brand name for those clamps was? As I'm sure Sard ones would be v. expensive. They also look a tad reminiscent of V-band clamps! I've not had any problems so far with the $5 t-bolt clamps i get from Cummins, but then having the ridges welded over the joins really seemed to help as posted elsewhere in the thread, I'd though that my mate and I had dreamed that up until I read this thread lol. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/259242-intercooler-clampsnot-the-average-sht/page/2/#findComment-4456289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Race Spec make some really tidy Billet alloy ones http://racespec.com.au/product_info.php?cP...products_id=547 I dont personaly run them but when I have some extra coin I would like to swap some out to these I am running the $13 autobarn Tbolt jobbies at the mo without any dramas I have a couple of those on my car...they dont close up properly as in they leave a gap and leak unless they are BS tight Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/259242-intercooler-clampsnot-the-average-sht/page/2/#findComment-4456304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnoHR31 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Race Spec make some really tidy Billet alloy ones http://racespec.com.au/product_info.php?cP...products_id=547 I dont personaly run them but when I have some extra coin I would like to swap some out to these I am running the $13 autobarn Tbolt jobbies at the mo without any dramas same ones supershit have. as i said before they seam to pinch the joiner a bit and create a fold where boost could escape. maybe buy 1 from supercheap first and try it? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/259242-intercooler-clampsnot-the-average-sht/page/2/#findComment-4456309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanef Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 The main difference between the cheaper 'wiggans' style joiners and the proper wiggans joiners is the angle of flex that is allowed in the pipes. The wiggans have a flex angle of upto 30deg and the cheaper ones only have a 5-10deg flex. So the cheaper ones would be very similar to just welding all ur pipes together The other problem u could come across is the fact that some of the pipes maybe coming together at an angle, and not directly square to each other, that angle could cause the clamp to not give a 100% seal. How often do you guys properly pressure test ur intake system? i.e hooking an air compressor upto the air intake and feeding pressure into the system (making sure all obvious breathers etc are blocked off) This is a very easy way to make sure your coller pipes dont blow off and tracing any annoying air leaks. Race Spec make some really tidy Billet alloy ones http://racespec.com.au/product_info.php?cP...products_id=547 I dont personaly run them but when I have some extra coin I would like to swap some out to these I am running the $13 autobarn Tbolt jobbies at the mo without any dramas they are the ones noel was talking about earlier Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/259242-intercooler-clampsnot-the-average-sht/page/2/#findComment-4456806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky-Engineering Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Even better then the SARD double bead hose clamps are the following constant tension double bead hose clamps: http://www.murraycorp.com/index.pl/tss_turbo_seal_series.htm. These are used a lot in the race and rally here. But they are used for 2.0 bar plus cars. For normal road cars the normal wormdrives are ok. The T bolt are shit and only for low pressure applications. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/259242-intercooler-clampsnot-the-average-sht/page/2/#findComment-4457302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Race Spec make some really tidy Billet alloy ones http://racespec.com.au/product_info.php?cP...products_id=547 I dont personaly run them but when I have some extra coin I would like to swap some out to these I am running the $13 autobarn Tbolt jobbies at the mo without any dramas They look like a glorified cheapo clamp to be honest. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/259242-intercooler-clampsnot-the-average-sht/page/2/#findComment-4457322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1GTR Posted March 4, 2009 Author Share Posted March 4, 2009 Thanks everyone for the replies and info - certainly a lot of info has just come out of the woodwork! Car's all fixed and boosting away like it should Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/259242-intercooler-clampsnot-the-average-sht/page/2/#findComment-4457326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanef Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 oi stevo did some more digging and found this very informative thread and vid http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?p=8938406 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/259242-intercooler-clampsnot-the-average-sht/page/2/#findComment-4485980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerman4 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 They look like a glorified cheapo clamp to be honest. agreed the 3 piece aluminium things should be avoided. the thread to tighten them is very corse so the ability to get them tight using a allen key is not going to happen. and then theres the 3 pinch points. also why are you guys getting the end of your pipes welded? surely getting a nice smooth lip rolled into the aluminium gives a more even load point. ASE in adelaide rolled a few bits of pipe for me for $5 took him 5 minutes and it has a perfect flair at the end. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/259242-intercooler-clampsnot-the-average-sht/page/2/#findComment-4486044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 ^^ for a nice sharp rise, stopped my hose popping off and took a welder about 5mins to do it as well (all the way around) Didnt look that flash, but its under a hose so didnt bother me particularly and it was free! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/259242-intercooler-clampsnot-the-average-sht/page/2/#findComment-4486149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangles Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 the t-bolt clamps I run are around $10? from agriculture supply depo's - for use in plumbing etc. excellent quality, only 1 has failed after numerous do-up, un-do, do-up, un-do, do-up, un-do, etc procedures Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/259242-intercooler-clampsnot-the-average-sht/page/2/#findComment-4486219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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