Leaking Turbo :(

[chef_stagea]

hey all, droped the car off to boost works to get its 100k service, safc2 and greddy profec b spec 2 install today...

they just called me telling me my turbos were leaking, from what i gather its the exhaust side. he said 950 to pull it all out and change the gaskets for its such a tricky spot. i could pull them off my self if i needed to.

he said coz there wont be heaps of back pressure it will spool quicker and may hurt the turbos.

im not doubting his words at this stage, i didnt get him to go ahead simply coz i just cannot afford it! but how much damage will this be doing, can i do it my self? and where do i get gaskets from??

i was thinking maybe do the gaskets m self, and then trailer it in to get an exhaust done?

its on the 26 in the stagea btw!

Edited March 2, 2009 by chef_stagea

[kidafa]

was just speaking to cheff over facebook chat about this before he posted this up.

Will we just need to replace two of these http://justjap.com/store/product.php?produ...=318&page=1 ?

Also what gasket is on the exhaust side?

[Madaz]

Surly there is more to this story than just replace gaskets

[CRoNic...]

$950?

Just get the turbo rebuilt for that price, as you're probably still running the ceramics?

But for $950, they'd replace the seals as well I'm guessing.

Edit: yeah, they'd replace the seals and gaskets. Kit's for this start at $150 per turbo. Factor in that + labour for removing the turbo's, etc... the price sounds about right for what they're doing.

Edited March 3, 2009 by CRoNic...

[J - Rad]

Sorry to be offtopic but how much did the 100,000 service cost you?

[CRoNic...]

It'd be in the $900 - $1200 range.

[chef_stagea]

yeh thats it...

spoke to them its the rear turbo, turbo to manifold gasket, there are bolts missing (apparently a common problem) and yeah its just a massive labour job he said. also they told me i shouldnt go booting around as it spools up quicker coz theres no pressure on it? whats the go there? does it make sence and does he mean just dont rev the guts outa it?

[JayMei]

fast spooling of turbo's is bad now?

[heslo]

It can cause the turbo to over-boost and then as a result, go pop

[Dori-Dori]

  chef_stagea said:

yeh thats it...

spoke to them its the rear turbo, turbo to manifold gasket, there are bolts missing (apparently a common problem) and yeah its just a massive labour job he said. also they told me i shouldnt go booting around as it spools up quicker coz theres no pressure on it? whats the go there? does it make sence and does he mean just dont rev the guts outa it?

if ya handy with a spanner do it yourself

that way u learn, n then if u get stuck call a mate u know with a 26 that knows about em

the best way to learn is do yourself and there is very very little you can do to stuff up a gasket change.

just take your time and remember you will have to drain coolant first and you wil get some oil leakage unless you block the lines up real quick after taking them off

on my mates sr it took us 4 hours to do a turbo and manifold off and back on, replacing all gaskets along the way.

if ya gonna have a crack at it and need to ask more questions pm me, i've done this stuff before.

[chef_stagea]

cheers dori, ive gota mate with a stag, and a mate with a 26 so im sure they will be willing to lend a hand ! i spoke to boost works and they said i wouldnt expect u to get us to to it coz of the pricw its just such a head case he said... how would you go about doing it? drop the coolant? exhaust n just start taking stuff off from there...

any thing eles i should look at, change or what ever while im that far in?

[Dori-Dori]

just drain the coolant first

then maybe a bit of oil if ya dont want to make a huge mess (if you use a clean container being new oil u should be able to put it back in, as long as you store it in a place where dirt and crap cant get

then take the front and dump pipe off

then take off the oil and water lines from both turbos

not 100% sure on room wise in a stag, but it will def be easier to take the manifold off with the turbos attached still

and then once off unbolt the turbos on the ground

that is basic but u get the idea, my biggest advice is DONT RUSH IT, if it takes two days, good better to be safe then sorry, and PLEASE PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK EVERYTHING WHEN YOU BOLT IT BACK

its not rocket science it just takes thinking and alot of 180 degree wrist bends to put that spanner on that nut that wont budge while reaching from the other side to pull the spanner lol

you generally dont have to replace every gasket that comes off

but in your case doing such a big job i would suggest every gasket that comes off should be replaced

so that is block to manifolds (yes theres two), manifold to turbos (two again), turbos to dumps, dumps to fronts

and with no stud on there if it is snapped drill it out and replace it with a nissan one

but at the same time, coz they arent that expensive i would replace all studs (save the hassle if they ever break again)(and they will)

have fun

[chef_stagea]

sounds like heaps of fun lol... ill speak to just jap i think about getting gaskets...

these studs your talking about? what are they?

and to make my day better the injector bottom o-rings r slightly leaking? is this a drama?? apart from loss of fuel economy, and a rougher idel?

what do i replace them with? just take of the injector wipe it off and change it?

[rad100]

i got my injector o rings done at petro ject!

did mine in 4 hours!

[Dohmar]

  chef_stagea said:

sounds like heaps of fun lol... ill speak to just jap i think about getting gaskets...

these studs your talking about? what are they?

and to make my day better the injector bottom o-rings r slightly leaking? is this a drama?? apart from loss of fuel economy, and a rougher idel?

what do i replace them with? just take of the injector wipe it off and change it?

speak to joeleo87, his work makes the o-rings for injectors, he can probably hook u up

-D

Edited March 5, 2009 by Dohmar

[Race__24]

Looking at the gasket you're replacing it's the one between the turbo and the manifold. If it leaks you can probably hear it, I had one done on my 33. As for not booting it i'm not sure that it will do harm to your turbo. Since exhaust gasses leaking before the turbo would mean less going through, less boost and less pressure on the turbo. If it was leaking at the dump side then it may cause it to spool faster but no more than you'd expect from a high flowing exhaust.

[chef_stagea]

  Race__24 said:

Looking at the gasket you're replacing it's the one between the turbo and the manifold. If it leaks you can probably hear it, I had one done on my 33. As for not booting it i'm not sure that it will do harm to your turbo. Since exhaust gasses leaking before the turbo would mean less going through, less boost and less pressure on the turbo. If it was leaking at the dump side then it may cause it to spool faster but no more than you'd expect from a high flowing exhaust.

very very true... did you get urs done at the place we spoke about? cheers

[Race__24]

Nah, i had mine done at nissan, cost around $700 there but i had all the manifolds machined, plus they are buy no means the cheapest place around.

I had my exhaust fitted there, they quoted me $100, but a bolt snapped, which happens unfortunatly, had to remove turbo to get it out, cost another $100 on top. $200 still a good price just for the install. They also did my timing belt and water pump at a very good price.