Buyers Beware: C J Motor

[Iron Chef]

Failing to find any sympathy for the OP...

Seriously, harden up and cop it on the chin as a lesson learnt. CJ didn't go out of their way to defraud you, the parts they sold you were the correct parts, which were then installed incorrectly by someone else.

If you were hoping to get your revenge on here, you've failed. If there's gonna be any lawsuits, it'll be them dragging your sorry arse through court for damages from your slander/libel.

[bnr#@]

Your mechanic shoved and adjustable part on your car without checking what it was set to? sounds pretty silly really...

Does he do the same with adjustable fuel pressure regs? I would be really worried there...

Also i'm fairly certain that in the instructions they tell you to adjust the actuator, I know my mates gt-ss it was there and my actuators came with the same instructions (in Japanese but not hard to work out via the diagrams)

[Jpower]

Will the real Jackie Chan please stand up?

[NISMO]

Got agree with everyone else buddy. There's nothing "faulty" with the product but more so it wasn't adjusted to your spec. Given the risk to your motor, i also find it very surprising they wern't checked before installation.

[Johnny]

One little thing thats common is people who trade japanese parts and dont supply any aftermaket support/warranty/repairs.

its not the first thing you think of but defninitely comes in handy to ask before buying.

No harm done though, especially on your motor! a little annoyed, definitely but in a couple of weeks you will forget bout the extra cash spent on setting the car up right and be wiser to check everything before you buy/install

ps: thanks for the heads up to check components before they are installed + traders links to manufacturers

[Crans]

If the company state the wastegate is set from factory and it has been plugged into the car then a wastegate problem has been found then it is on the manufacture to fix. The distributor should be held accountable for liaising with the manufacturer to rectify the problem.

I dont things hes complaining over nothing at all. All to often people get screwed with faulty/crap products and no support.

Give them shit I say, stand up for your self.

[Habler]

Maybe read the thread properly next time before posting.

Even if it has been stated before sale that the wastegate is set to a certain point from factory the OP has no idea what this is. He even went far as to presume where it should be set (0.9 to 1.2). That's a big presumption since the factory setting could be exactly where it was below 6psi.

As I previously said this would make sense so idiots like you and him don't go chucking on HKS turbos without first checking the settings then blowing your engine and crying over that instead!

I say the guy is lucky to have only had to spend $900 instead of paying for a new engine. Also.... how can it be a wasted $900??? Firstly the OP said it cost him $900 to have his mechanic take off a front bar and a few pipes then went on to say "that included dyno time, original fitting etc" so either it cost him much much less to fix the problems of the actuators (tops... it should take a qualified mechanic an hour to tighten two actuators and put everything back on a bad day) or he is getting ripped off hard!!! Not by CJ but by his mechanic.

I should really stop posting.. nothing i say seems to be sinking in.

[NISMO]

If the company state the wastegate is set from factory and it has been plugged into the car then a wastegate problem has been found then it is on the manufacture to fix. The distributor should be held accountable for liaising with the manufacturer to rectify the problem.

I dont things hes complaining over nothing at all. All to often people get screwed with faulty/crap products and no support.

Give them shit I say, stand up for your self.

But there's nothing faulty!

It simply wasn't set at the setting that this customer thought it was.

If you buy a boost controller and it says on the box factory defualt setting 1bar, would you just pop it on your car and away you go, or given that somethign that important can kill your turbo's/motor would you check it?

[Habler]

This thread could only be redeemed if NISMO posts a high res copy of his avatar

[unix]

I bought a N1 oil pump off CJ Motor he isnt dodgy Received the pump very fast %100 working.

[ELMOHASA33]

AS A MECHANIC IVE FITTED MANY EXTERNAL AND INTERNAL WASTE GATES MAYBE 2 OUT OF EVERY TEN OF THEM HAVE BEEN PRESET FROM THE FACTORY BUT YOU ALWAYS CHECK THEM BEFORE FITTING EVEN IF THEY ARE EASY TO REACH AND ADJUST IN CAR ITS AS SIMPLE AS AND TAKES TWO MINUTES THE LAST WASTE GATE I FITTED WAS FOR A CUSTOMER WHEN I GOT IT OUT OF THE BOX I NOTICED THE BOOST PRESURE LINE WAS FITTED TO THE WRONG SIDE OF THE DIAPHRAM BASICLY MEANING THE MORE BOOST THE HARDER THE WASTE GATE HELD CLOSED "IMAGINE IF I BOLTED IT TO THE CAR AS IS" IM NOT SAYING YOUR MECHANICS SHIT AS I DONT KNOW HIM BUT HE REALY SHOULD HAVE CHECKED THE OPENING PRESSURE BEFORE FITTING ..DEEP DOWN I THINK YOUR MEHCANIC KNOWS THIS BUT AS IS OFFTEN THE CASE IN THE MOTOR TRADE ITS EASYER TO BLAME OTHERS THAN ADDMITING TO YOUR OWN MISTAKES "REALISING YOUR MISTAKES IS THE FIRST STEP TO LEARNING FROM THEM"

[Iron Chef]

[Merli]

The funniest thing about this thread is that the OP thinks that the distributor ripped him off, and doesn't even realise that his mechanic is either absolutely incompetent or sticking it in him and laughing all the way to the bank.

[Dori-Dori]

you said you got the turbos wrapped up

were they in a box and was the box sealed??

hope wat people have said has sunk in

[a31lunacy]

yeah man id be saying to my mechanic why didn't you check them before installing them and asking him why I'm paying for something he should have know about.

I still can't believe how many mechanics charge like a bull to be performance specialists knowing all about these cars but when it comes to fault finding them it always takes them a ridiculous amount of time happened to me too many times now.

[zebra]

lol at the OP.

and I once rang gavin wood about a quick check up dyno run before a drag day...he wanted 300 bucks for one run with an AFR log....I just laughed and hung up

[r32line]

I'll get the facts from HKS and the mechanic, if it all checks out what they have said I'll be taking Jacky to the Small Claims tribunal. I'll also be lodging a claim with the Queensland Department of Fair Trading and ACCC as to his dealings.

Oh dear.... if anything CJ Motor should take you to the small claims tribunal for defamation.

Congrats to your mechanic for the blame shift though... seems to have worked a treat.

[iplen]

Seriously man if even the people who took a turbo off a truck, then put it in the mail are out to get you this bad, I would keep that stash of dope real well hidden because that could be the CIA pulling up right now...

[[[d a n n y]]]

ive dealth with cj motors b4

never had a single problem with him

bought alot of parts off him from my evo..

i can vouch for his honesty and quick service

[rtune]

just to spoil the party on the grave of the OP, I'll not buy from CJ Motors again.

Jacky advertises ATI dampers on ebay, and I contacted him and bought it direct, asking if he could

express ship it (he could not, only australia post). Fair enough. I got it, and the same week asked if I

could return it, un-opened, for a credit if I paid S&H and I even said a restock fee would be ok, as

I'd suffered a huge setback and this would be a big help. After all, it was UN-OPENED so it costs him

nothing but a few emails. He lists his stock as 10, or whatever, it is a commodity, he isn't selling

Faberge eggs here.

He ignored the first contact, and in the second, just flat out refused saying, in effect, tough titties mate.

I would copy the email but it barely qualified as english.

A few emails later, after I explained that a little bit of customer service would go a long way, he

hadn't budged an inch. He spent far more time writing get lost replies than he would have

accepting the return, incrementing his stock count by 1, and refunding less S&H and a fee.

His ebay auctions, by the way, state

"Return policy not specified.

Read item description for any reference to return policy."

(there is none in the description, of course).

His personal site lists an extensive amount of legal boiler plate in equally fractured english that I can sum up as basically:

don't try to return anything for any reason, if it doesn't work & if you breathed on it, touched it, bolted it on, used it,

or in any way handled it, you've got it forever, it is your fault that it is broken. If it is perfect, you can't return it either.

And in all other situations we don't accept returns. And if you change your mind

before we ship, tough luck, and if you refuse to sign for it or bounce it, tough luck, and in the (non-existent)

case where we do accept a return -- you have to pay a 25%(!!) restock fee.

So basically he is yet another example of how sh!thouse customer service is somehow acceptable to the car

modifying community, in any other field a business would go under acting this way.

His only redeeming feature is he is cheap. Which wasn't why I went to him, the distributor was waiting for a

new shipment.. But IMO I'd rather give the 5% to a real business, not some guy with the customer service

of basil faulty, a garage load of boxes he doesn't stand behind, and an fleabay storefront.