NSW State Supersprints 2009

[SteadyEddie]

Also, can everyone get back to what the real reason is......

Its got nothing to do with trophy hunting - got nothing to do with budgets, etc - got nothing to do with anyone personal (although alot of you are making it that way)

Its all about the rules being wrong - and getting them changed. I say wrong (and people can dispute that - I'm sure they will) - because CAMS changed them to exclude someone from always winning - and CAMS admit that.....

Now, if you dont think thats wrong - or you dont think that is discriminating - then keep having a go at Michele about her personally - and totally deflect the real reason - because you cant defend what you really know is right (the arguement of getting the rules changed)...as they say "the best form of defense is attack!!!" - lets attack the individual because thats easier than trying to formulate an argument against something you know is wrong....

Look, if the outcome is they break up supersprint into different types and categories, then thats fine - but as it stands - the only supersprint series is all inclusive of types - yet discriminates against who can be the outright winner....

[Neil]

Okay Okay,,,give it a rest. Harry's made his points,,,all good ones but I don't think he needs 3 Camberrians slamming him all day for the last 3 days.

It started out as a healthy discussion,,,now it's getting crazy.

Nismoman yes I love O/P G/P and I will miss her dearly. I broke in turn 1 a front control arm there last year flat out,,,so these day I'm backing off and going back a cog. The flip/flop is the one I love.

Neil.

[Michele]

I was car # 551 - S13 Silvia, I fixed the issue with my Championship entry as my form got misplaced at CAMS so I'll be included in the points!! I'd like to say it was my first proper go at Oran Park GP (I entered last year but only did warm up lap before slave cylinder failed!!) and I totally loved it!!!!

I think it is the best circuit in NSW, but I haven't driven Bathurst yet. I've driven Wakefield, Eastern Creek and Oran Park South Circuit a few times, but I think the GP circuit is totally awesome... awesome to the max!!!!

Does anyone else think it's a really awesome and challenging track? I found the only place my car wasn't sliding was down the straight!

The tunnel, the bridge and the roller coaster corners!

Plus that turn 1 kink. Wow! Ultimate hero corner. Nearly as frightening as turn 1 at Eastern Creek. Do people back off or brake for it????

I was my first look at the GP circuit as well and you're right, its totally awesome. The kink takes a lot of nerve to get through at speed, especially when you sit low because you can't see where it's going until you're at the kink. Had a few heart stop/starts at that point but all worked out well in the end. I have never been to EC, so can't compare turn 1 yet.

You really need to get to the Bathurst Speed Weekend too and the BLCC are super super people.

Let me know if you need any help or info for these events.

[raps86]

Congrats to michele and neil for the times that u done on sunday and thanks to michele for leting me help out on the weekend aswell. As for all this stuff that everyone is talking about i think its crap how cams would change the rules to disconect to not let people gain points for running at these events and go for outright points. It is a cams event and therefor every class of cams should be able to compete.

[hrd-hr30]

there's also no class for production rally cars, no class for FIA S2000, no class for tarmac rally cars, no class for classic rally cars, no class for Group N... all valid CAMS classes. No historic sports and racing cars, historic specials, historic touring cars, or historic production sports cars either. Why? because this event is not for them. its for the classes defined as eligible vehicles in the events Supp Regs. it all seems rather obvious...

[rmsport]

Harry,

All those classes DO fit and can gain outright points except the open wheelers and the sports race cars.

it all seems rather obvious... to those that aren't blinkered.

[hrd-hr30]

Harry,

All those classes DO fit and can gain outright points except the open wheelers and the sports race cars.

it all seems rather obvious... to those that aren't blinkered.

sorry, all that talk about proper CAMS classes seems to have blinkered me from the fact that NSW supersprints don't use ANY proper CAMS classes...

[GTR32G]

Also, can everyone get back to what the real reason is......

Its got nothing to do with trophy hunting - got nothing to do with budgets, etc - got nothing to do with anyone personal (although alot of you are making it that way)

Its all about the rules being wrong - and getting them changed. I say wrong (and people can dispute that - I'm sure they will) - because CAMS changed them to exclude someone from always winning - and CAMS admit that.....

Now, if you dont think thats wrong - or you dont think that is discriminating - then keep having a go at Michele about her personally - and totally deflect the real reason - because you cant defend what you really know is right (the arguement of getting the rules changed)...as they say "the best form of defense is attack!!!" - lets attack the individual because thats easier than trying to formulate an argument against something you know is wrong....

Look, if the outcome is they break up supersprint into different types and categories, then thats fine - but as it stands - the only supersprint series is all inclusive of types - yet discriminates against who can be the outright winner....

So if you think the rules were changed to stop someone winning all the time and CAMS have admitted to this, that’s fine with me...

Just like i have said before Super Lap has its own rules and stops cars from entering, They stopped the Group A R32 GTR cars from winning by adding weight to them to make the racing more competitive, They don’t let all cars race at Bathurst for the 12hour, it’s to keep the sport closer and give others a chance to win.

The Cams Superspirnts can make their own rules to suit most of the competitors running and gives people with modified road cars or basic level race cars a chance to win?

[Michele]

They can win their class - None of the type 5 cars are trying to get into anyone elses class. As I've said before, I wouldn't have a problem if they dropped Outright altogether. Just don't give a false Outright.

[Neil]

Round 2 was run at O/park G/P this last Sunday in really crappy conditions. There were some interesting cars out there,,,R35 on 18's and semis,,,2 R32 GTR's,,,some silvia's and the datto brigade were well

represented.

I did my usual and took it easy in the 1st session,,,but when I pulled a 1.16.07 in the 2nd it was time to have a little go. A 1.15.62 was the result in the 3rd. I was as happy as a pig in shit,,,knowing we both have more in hand.

Then it started raining and while the track dried I went out on a sighter and pulled a 1.16.17 with a 1/4 of the end of the straight oiled up on the race line. That was the end of the day with another massive oil down and raining again.

Even better was stealing the class 5 record off Michele.

Go the R35,,,3rd is way cool.

R2_Results.pdf

You gonna have to work harder Michele.

Neil.

[Merli]

Yeah, Duncan (the R35 owner and driver) posted in the R35 forum section about the weekend...

1.7 seconds behind your beast is a phenomenal statement for the R35!!!

[evil_weevil]

His name is Duncan

[GTR32G]

Well done Neil on that time, and very good to see the R35 pulling great times my old man has to pull his finger out now and make the PRB faster.

My day got worse every run with a 4WD light coming on and off then staying on, was not fun going over the dog leg thinking you have 4WD and not. made for some intresting saves trying to get a lap with out it playing up, as soon as the tyres were getting warm the light come on. ended up doing most laps in 2WD.

Will post up some pics soon....

[GTR32G]

An my GTR on the first run when the 4WD was working for a lap

[GTR32G]

And well done to Stewart on the great times.. Car looks well set up

[Duncan]

great work Neil, 1.15 with a crappy little bike engine is moving pretty well, especially in those shithouse conditions.

great to see a couple of skylines racing too, and to see a Duncan compete without killing a motor

a bit sad though....the only entrant from the skyline club was in a radical, and the 3 skylines were entered under other clubs

[Duncan]

BTW I don't know what the 2D class record was (standard car on street tyres) but I reckon Duncan's 1.17.34 will stand for a while....

[Neil]

a bit sad though....the only entrant from the skyline club was in a radical, and the 3 skylines were entered under other clubs

R2_Club.pdf

I agree totally,,,SAU could get right into the points if I had some help.

Ha Ha 1298cc little bike engine is crappy is it mate,,,My good friend 1.15's are history. We have 1 more round on the G/P and if the weathers good I'm leaving O/P with the record forever.

The 2D record was held by Jason Wright in a WRX STI in 2007 at 1.18.77. GO Nissan.

Neil.

[evil_weevil]

I really should enter the state rounds as well as the interclub series!

[260DET]

LOL at anyone wanting to run an open wheeler in a supersprint, I mean why would you? Competing with other open wheelers too hard or is this a gay NSW thing.

Edited April 21, 2009 by 260DET