Hanaldo Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 For the drain You can modify the stock drain pipe with a bit of high quality heater hose from Repco (cost $14/M): Installation guide with the G3 is at page 39: http://www.skylinesa...d/page__st__760 I just had a piece of 90 degrees 2.5 inches pipe from turbo to cooler piping then just poded the front at that time. Or just a 4inches 45 degrees hose with a straight pipe and pod. With the rubber pipe generally if it doesn't touch it won't burn. If it does looks like going to touch then we normally put a small whole on the the end of of and pull it back against the bracket with a small zip tie. also can you send me a photo of your engine bay? must be a very neat setup I'm installing another SS3 prototype I will post some photos of how that looks like on my car and whats required. I'll take a photo in the morning, it's finally all back together and running like a dream No air-locks or anything which I was very surprised about, I did bleed the system but usually it takes a couple of tries to get all the air out. Now I just need to get the screamer pipe made up and it's ready for the tune on Friday. My setup is quite neat now, apart from my hot cooler pipe which is hideous Will be getting that remade and then it should look the goods Then rocker cover respray, then custom catch can, then then then... It never ends Could you explain a little more about the air con drain? The dump pipe is touching it, by quite a bit actually. What do you mean you put a hole on the end of it??? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/159/#findComment-6130962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harey Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 My dump pipe is also close to the air con drain as in it has burnt it. Does this explain why I am getting some water dripping on the feet of the front passenger when the aircon is on? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/159/#findComment-6131192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bond Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I would be wedging some serious insulation between the 2 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/159/#findComment-6131209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypergear Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 I will have a think about making some sort of a bracket that holds that rubber pipe. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/159/#findComment-6131532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SargeRX8 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 There is about an inch of space, maybe a little less, between my dump (jjr) and that rubber hose. I'd wrap the dump in heat wrap. My old car had a wrapped dump and it really did make a difference to cabin temps. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/159/#findComment-6131541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaldo Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Bah. My pipe is already melted May have to just delete the air-con Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/159/#findComment-6131573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harey Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Bah. My pipe is already melted May have to just delete the air-con I think thats an overreaction! Its only the release of the condensation isnt it?? It just drops water on the ground. So if there is a hole burnt in it, then either the water will drop out the hole that was burnt or in my case the water is dripping back inside the passenger feet area. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/159/#findComment-6131599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaldo Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) Yehh Jeff, comment was more in reaction to the amount of fking around I had to do in order to keep my aircon. It just seems to be in the way of everything, including my screamer pipe. And I would rather not have water coming into the cabin every time I use the aircon Anyway, for those who are interested, here's a few pictures of my setup: New turbo. Size comparison. For science Old vs New: How it sits without any of the plumbing. At this stage I thought it was going to be easy In this image you can see the issues I have with the dump touching the drain pipe as well as the screamer pipe fitment. It's gonna be a hell of a custom job for that screamer. And in this image you can see how far over it moved my intake pipe. I used to be able to fit my radiator overflow in there as well, but that's had to be relocated. And finally this is how my bay looks in general. It actually looks much neater than my previous setup did, I spared no expense with this setup. I'm playing with the idea of doing a full write-up for the install, but unfortunately I didn't take any pictures along the way... If there's any interest in me doing it then I guess I can give it a go anyway. Or if anyone wants pictures of anything in specific then I can go and take some for you. Edited November 29, 2011 by Hanaldo Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/159/#findComment-6131630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crans Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 What turbo is that? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/159/#findComment-6131704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypergear Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 Thats the Current ATR43G3 in .82 rear. Also If you can actually pickup about 600RPMs of better response by getting rid of that big cooler pipe goes across the engine bay. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/159/#findComment-6131740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolls Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Also If you can actually pickup about 600RPMs of better response by getting rid of that big cooler pipe goes across the engine bay. I don't believe you. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/159/#findComment-6131759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crans Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Oh so latest update of my turbo then, looks big for some reason. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/159/#findComment-6131764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypergear Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 I don't believe you. Check here: http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-hiflow-service-continued/page__pid__6051685__st__2700 The E85 run has forward facing plenum that runs 1/3 of piping compare to mine which also run over the engine bay. Appears most people with forward facing plenums do run shorter cooler piping pickups better response then others whom run cross over piping. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/159/#findComment-6131793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolls Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 You mean the E85 gave it better response? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/159/#findComment-6131807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I went to forward facing and lost response. as do most people Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/159/#findComment-6131818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harey Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Check here: http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-hiflow-service-continued/page__pid__6051685__st__2700 The E85 run has forward facing plenum that runs 1/3 of piping compare to mine which also run over the engine bay. Appears most people with forward facing plenums do run shorter cooler piping pickups better response then others whom run cross over piping. Different cars right with different setups? Would need to do a direct before/after comparison on the same car. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/159/#findComment-6131863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTScotT Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I dare say the forward facer would not help response. My reasoning is that longer runners give better torque and flow distribution. Larger volume in the intake tracts also gives better volume ability. IE a fatter cooler pipe after the IC than before (more volume for the denser charge). Be it myself I would run a pipe atleast the hose ID of the throttle body from the TB to the cooler. I would run it 90 degrees from the TB then out by the manifold like the HKS cooler pipes do, eliminating the big crossover pipe. I would do this not to shorten the length but to eliminate that crappy crossover pipe which varies the ID. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/159/#findComment-6131908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Ran ran a Gibson Motorsport r31 style cold pipe for a long time. Seemed to be the best compromise. Will did up a pick when I get home Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/159/#findComment-6131930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypergear Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 He’s running a Plazaman plenum. In theory shorter cooler piping reduces lag as the length in air travel is shorter, with less volume to fill, same as bigger or smaller coolers. Mine and Abe's car are identical in setup except shorter cooler piping and plenum, E85 should also have some effects as well. I’m also in the process of designing a shorter piping on the plenum side, should make a difference. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/159/#findComment-6131936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
methz Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 e85 would have a HUGE difference. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/159/#findComment-6131998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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