Pattey21 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Why poncams to run stock injectors and 10-12psi..doubt that will have any gains more mid range not chasing big power, im want cams regardless and i like the idea of trying to get the most out of it on lower boost as its a daily. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/271/#findComment-6407853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
75coupe Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I dont think that boost PSI will get any or more midrange that the std turbo does at that same PSI... you need to read some more about modifications before making any more decisions... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/271/#findComment-6407874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Daily drivability? How often are you going to be above 4000rpm and how long are you staying there? If anything the cams will cost you low end power. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/271/#findComment-6407875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
75coupe Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 more mid range not chasing big power, im want cams regardless and i like the idea of trying to get the most out of it on lower boost as its a daily. in saying that you dont actually need a new turbo then... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/271/#findComment-6407876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattey21 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I dont think that boost PSI will get any or more midrange that the std turbo does at that same PSI... you need to read some more about modifications before making any more decisions... more mid range from cams. the tomei 256 pon cams have approx 15% more lift and 256 duration is a mild increase over stock 240. reason for hi-flow is my stock one is on its way out. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/271/#findComment-6407907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
75coupe Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 (edited) running 10-12 psi on a highflow or any other upgrade from stock will not make use of the cams cams on low psi wont see their potential imo.... plus it will be an extra $1000 spent on cams and install that could generate more midrange with other parts Edited June 20, 2012 by 75coupe Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/271/#findComment-6407914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolverine Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 reason for hi-flow is my stock one is on its way out. How is your stock turbo on the way out? They tend to work or toss the turbine wheel down the cat. People are genuinely trying to help you. If you feel that you must upgrade then there is much more to be gained from the turbo than you can ever hope to get out of 256 deg poncams. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/271/#findComment-6407955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattey21 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 How is your stock turbo on the way out? They tend to work or toss the turbine wheel down the cat. People are genuinely trying to help you. If you feel that you must upgrade then there is much more to be gained from the turbo than you can ever hope to get out of 256 deg poncams. whineing/rubbing sounds from turbo (and no its different from the spooling sound) so took off all the intake to get to the intake turbine didnt look too healthy and a fair bit of play side to side) front and back. thanks a lot for your comments i know my ideas of modding are not orthadox. im just interested in getting the most out of it with low boost, knowing its not value for money or getting the most out of mods, but thats just what i like. cheers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/271/#findComment-6407975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolverine Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Gasket leak is probably the whining noise. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/271/#findComment-6407979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 thanks a lot for your comments i know my ideas of modding are not orthadox. im just interested in getting the most out of it with low boost, knowing its not value for money or getting the most out of mods, but thats just what i like. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/271/#findComment-6407983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
75coupe Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 (edited) whineing/rubbing sounds from turbo (and no its different from the spooling sound) so took off all the intake to get to the intake turbine didnt look too healthy and a fair bit of play side to side) front and back. thanks a lot for your comments i know my ideas of modding are not orthadox. im just interested in getting the most out of it with low boost, knowing its not value for money or getting the most out of mods, but thats just what i like. cheers Ahb u do realise just because you use 10-12psi on another turbo other than stock turbo spec that you cant get away with using a std ecu, turbos flow different amounts, its not dictated by boost psi... Im all about the mid range and response, i chose the right turbo but i had no preconception about what boost i would end up using, i used the psi that gave the result. Ill do cams one day but i wouldnt put it at the top of my list infact i dont thing anyone does, so goahead be different see what happens, dont ask us you already know apparantly Edited June 20, 2012 by 75coupe Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/271/#findComment-6407993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitcho_7 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Classic haha! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/271/#findComment-6408007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitcho_7 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 (edited) whineing/rubbing sounds from turbo (and no its different from the spooling sound) so took off all the intake to get to the intake turbine didnt look too healthy and a fair bit of play side to side) front and back. thanks a lot for your comments i know my ideas of modding are not orthadox. im just interested in getting the most out of it with low boost, knowing its not value for money or getting the most out of mods, but thats just what i like. cheers Are you only running lower boost for engine safety/so you won't blow your engine? If so, wind in 18 psi and take it to a good tuner and it should be fine. Running more boost will give you a much fatter mid range (which you say you want) and utilize the poncams more as well, win win situation I say! Edited June 20, 2012 by Mitcho_7 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/271/#findComment-6408012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattey21 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 (edited) Ahb u do realise just because you use 10-12psi on another turbo other than stock turbo spec that you cant get away with using a std ecu, turbos flow different amounts, its not dictated by boost psi... Im all about the mid range and response, i chose the right turbo but i had no preconception about what boost i would end up using, i used the psi that gave the result. Ill do cams one day but i wouldnt put it at the top of my list infact i dont thing anyone does, so goahead be different see what happens, dont ask us you already know apparantly yeah i plan on using getting a z32 ecu and going down the line of a nisune. i take it you cant just buy "a kit" to mod the ecu to suit r33 Edited June 20, 2012 by Pattey21 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/271/#findComment-6408027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tai1or Made Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 They tend to work or toss the turbine wheel down the cat. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/271/#findComment-6408037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitcho_7 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 (edited) yeah i plan on using getting a z32 ecu and going down the line of a nisune. i take it you cant just buy "a kit" to mod the ecu to suit r33 Get in contact with nistune and see if they have any z32 ecu's laying around. There is a specific version of the z32 ecu that tends to work a bit better so ask them which one it is if they arent able to supply one. If they cant supply one then source the correct type one from somewhere and send it to nistune to solder in the nistune board (you pay them for the board and labor obviously). There may even be a few in the for sale section at the moment from memory. Then it's just plug n play. If you're in Canberra the only place that does nistunes is Autotech out at Hume. When I asked them about the nistuned z32 ecu into an r33 gtst they didn't know a lot about it, so I went interstate. Edited June 20, 2012 by Mitcho_7 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/271/#findComment-6408048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattey21 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Get in contact with nistune and see if they have any z32 ecu's laying around. There is a specific version of the z32 ecu that tends to work a bit better so ask them which one it is if they arent able to supply one. If they cant supply one then source the correct type one from somewhere and send it to nistune to solder in the nistune board (you pay them for the board and labor obviously). There may even be a few in the for sale section at the moment from memory. Then it's just plug n play. If you're in Canberra the only place that does nistunes is Autotech out at Hume. When I asked them about the nistuned z32 ecu into an r33 gtst they didn't know a lot about it, so I went interstate. yeah canberras pretty average cheers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/271/#findComment-6408062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Really wish people would thoroughly research modifications before saying give me "two of the big ones". Or at least garner a basic understanding of their purpose... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/271/#findComment-6408109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTZ Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 But their purpose is to inflate my ego, learning stuff is nerdy Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/271/#findComment-6408123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherring Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 But there purpose is to inflate my ego, learning stuff is nerdy Classic. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/271/#findComment-6408130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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