GTScotT Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 both those clutches are cushions. the way you tell is if there is a full disk or if there are paddles. full disk are cushion (theres a wave plate between the two outer surfaces), paddle clutches are the non cushion type. my favourite type of clutch are the multi paddle ones, sprung centre and 6 or more paddles. they are rarer, the exedys are usually 3, 4 or 5 paddles as a maximum. the more surface area you have the friendlier the clutch is to use. I think thats a better way of making the thing manageable than a pissy wave plate. that being said ive got a pissy cushion button in my car too Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/281/#findComment-6428890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTScotT Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 cushion apparently, but it was TERRIBLE to drive, shuddered and f**ked my gearbox, in the end it still had massive bite and shudder but would slip on hard changes to 2nd. I am renowned for having no mechanical sympathy haha. Those symptoms point to the clutch being highly glazed. you should order an organic HHHD next time. high clamp load but a forgiving material. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/281/#findComment-6428892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolls Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Those symptoms point to the clutch being highly glazed. you should order an organic HHHD next time. high clamp load but a forgiving material. Yep that is what I put it down to as well, too much trying to slip it in traffic driving to work no doubt caused half of that wear opposed to actual abuse. I ended up getting a Jim Berry organic after that, was much more appropriate, nicer to drive and held the power/abuse just as well. Have a similar thing in my r32 now, organic exedy HD I think with uprated pressure plate, holds 260 no problems. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/281/#findComment-6428902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTScotT Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 yeah an organic isnt as bad as people think they are provided the pressure plate has the right clamp load. i tend to recommend them over buttons in most applications. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/281/#findComment-6428913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
89CAL Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I raise you my button clutch, I did this just daily driving the thing ; ) Totally destroyed it, you can see the heat discolouration and warping of the rivets, with only 150rwkw as well lol. I did nearly exactly the same thing to the same clutch with just shy of 200rwkw. Didn't get thrashed to often and one day just started slipping. No such issues with the NPC Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/281/#findComment-6429094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Kasko Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Ohh I can't wait to get upstairs and post mine Exact same clutch it looks like yours Birds Funny our setups have been so similar lol *Edit* Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/281/#findComment-6429121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 lol Dan, yours makes mine look like a brand new clutch. Speaking of which, reco gearbox and new clutch are in. It was dragging at first, so I swapped in a longer slave pushrod and adjusted the pedal. Now the take up point is a little too high, so I have to adjust the pedal again -_- Only been on a short test drive, but she feels great so far - no more crunchy gears and the organic clutch is very friendly. Can't wait for my 1000km run-in period to finish, then I can see how this NPC holds up to the SS1PU...AND GET AN E-FLEX TUNE! you should order an organic NPC next time. high clamp load but a forgiving material. fypbrah Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/281/#findComment-6429233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Kasko Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Yeah the poor thing took a beating! So I found the rattling noise in my clutch goes away when I slightly touch my foot on the pedal this is before the pressure point. Should have it back out in the next week and then we will know what's going on. Can't wait to see your 85 tune and what power it makes! As soon as tax comes im hitting it up and also going to get stao to swap me a 14psi actuator Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/281/#findComment-6429246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTScotT Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Lmao kasko the clutch killer. never driving my car, good effort tho Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/281/#findComment-6429333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Kasko Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Lmao kasko the clutch killer. never driving my car, good effort tho Oi shhh! Don't tell people or I will never get a drive. Nah but honestly it was my first manuel car I have ever driven and also couldn't handle the SS1PUWERRR Edit: I blame the SS Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/281/#findComment-6429376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTScotT Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 haha all good. 18 monthsish to go and ill be back on the scene, ill give you a spin mate dw see how a real engine performs LOL! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/281/#findComment-6429384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Kasko Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 You belong in the wasteland with a mouth like that! Damn whore you are Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/281/#findComment-6429390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam999111 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 For anyone interested this is my setup that will be installed by the weekend, ss2 0.82 type b rear, ext gate 44m tial with screamer and a comparison of the rear housing and wheel from factory Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/281/#findComment-6429392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_revz Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Yep very interested. Have you got the new lightweight comp wheel? Mine is currently being updated so couple weeks til it's going Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/281/#findComment-6429423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam999111 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 According to stao I have the most recent one. So not the lightweight one but the one after. Lol. Too many to keep track of. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/281/#findComment-6429430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTScotT Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 You belong in the wasteland with a mouth like that! Damn whore you are LOL just geeing, will be fun either way Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/281/#findComment-6429432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_revz Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 According to stao I have the most recent one. So not the lightweight one but the one after. Lol. Too many to keep track of. Pretty sure the last 2 weight the same it's only design that is slightly different. I'm also getting most recent version Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/281/#findComment-6429441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANDSCRIBBLE Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 For anyone interested this is my setup that will be installed by the weekend, ss2 0.82 type b rear, ext gate 44m tial with screamer and a comparison of the rear housing and wheel from factory cool, what fuel will you be using? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/281/#findComment-6429458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitcho_7 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Im keen to see some results of the most recent ss2 update in action Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/281/#findComment-6429488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rondofj Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 For anyone interested this is my setup that will be installed by the weekend, ss2 0.82 type b rear, ext gate 44m tial with screamer and a comparison of the rear housing and wheel from factory You got both internal n external gates.. What the.. Welding the internal gate shut? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/281/#findComment-6429495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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