hy_rpm Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Must be dud fuel and tune is close to the edge so very little difference made it ping If 100 octane e10 made it not ping Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/403/#findComment-6882099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet_r31 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 I think its not a bad result for a auto considering its usually 20kws behind a manual box. What does a locked convert do? I'm thinking of working out my Kia's auto. its not a bad result, before we used wmi, it made 258rwkw, and at that time they said they have done 5 3076 56T .82 setups on stageas and that the good ones got into the 250's on same boost and all 5 where out of puff the same, even the ones they owned personally... i woudn't run that timing though, id pull 2 degrees out if it was a 98 tune, and it was on the knife edge In all truth, the wmi let me run 12 degrees more timing when you take that into account...lol ..theres a few thing i can check, and a few things that happened that i'll keep to myself and see if the theorys workout,I'll revisit the dyno in a month or so one night. Im happy with the turbo and everything, just want to make sure its all working as well as it can cheers darren Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/403/#findComment-6882358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet_r31 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 out of interest stao, is there anything you can build into a T25G exhaust housing? cheers darren Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/403/#findComment-6882602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypergear Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 Yes the atr28g4 is a of a .64 ended t25 turbine housing and that makes 300rwkws on a ca18det. Just abit laggy. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/403/#findComment-6882633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
4bidn1 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 converter locked, not letting cool down really, 2 massive transcoolers, one has a thermo, total overkill..lol yeh its fast,it would be deceptively quick but even my mates vl that runs 10.3@133 doesn't feel quick to me either, thats linear to in its delivery my mates brother has a car that we use for a guidepost..R34 270rwkw on 17-18psi, 12.00@117mph. ill see how it goes against that, my mates 338rwkw stagea flogs it cheers darren Hey Daz was actually looking at that r34s dyno sheet when we got back from the dynoing your stag, it has a very progressive curve makes 281rwkw on 21 psi . It's also more sluggish in spool than yours . Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/403/#findComment-6882712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet_r31 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Yes the atr28g4 is a of a .64 ended t25 turbine housing and that makes 300rwkws on a ca18det. Just abit laggy. haha..my bad, thats a huge bitch. And i wasn't thinking. I meant to say a Ca18 T25 housing, the .48 ones Something that would fit in that housing, but give greater flow than standard turbo and good response still for a 1.5L non crossflow motor on 20-25psi..talking 150-170rwkw. i guess. Be good if it could still bolt in a .64 housing later for testing purposes Something that would make 210rwkw ish on a sr20 on 98 with best response may be in the ballpark ish even a standard Sr20 T28 would be decent, just wondered if you had something better.. cheers darren Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/403/#findComment-6882831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet_r31 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 or hks 2530 type sizing , but fitted in .48 housing.. cheers darren Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/403/#findComment-6882889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypergear Posted June 8, 2013 Author Share Posted June 8, 2013 Probably the 64mm billet SS1 in a CA T25 turbine housing should be some thing nice for doing that. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/403/#findComment-6882930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTScotT Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Darren just put a T28 on it and it will do well. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/403/#findComment-6882990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hy_rpm Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Just installed my hiflow atr28g2 with new .64 rear housing and fnt mod on my sr20det Feels more responsive already untuned than my td05h18g and its only on 1bar for now till I get it tuned in a few weeks Giving it 3/4 throttle comes on quite smoothly from 3500rpm on where as my previous turbo had nothing till after 4000rpm also has a slight whistle to it as it boosting up from 2000rpm on. Is this normal as it has fnt ? Sound very similar to the semi trailer trucks Hoping its makes similar power that I had before but better response previously had 264rwkw with a td05g18g 24psi dropping to 21psi by 4000rpm on eflex I'm going to run 22psi response wise I can feel its definately going to be better just hoping it makes the power Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/403/#findComment-6883174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypergear Posted June 8, 2013 Author Share Posted June 8, 2013 Could be induction sound?Just make sure it has plenty of clean oil supply and none restrictive oil feeding line, it should be fine. Make sure it has 3inch free flow induction and exhaust before going to the dyno. Preload actuator as you go if more boost is required. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/403/#findComment-6883336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshbigt62r Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 (edited) or hks 2530 type sizing , but fitted in .48 housing.. cheers darren Darren just buy my HKS 2535.no more lag than a 2530. And on a ca18det would be crazy fun alround. Comes with dump oil water lines. $950ono. .64 rear. I had one on my s13 ca18det 8-9 years ago and was mental fun. Done 15,000km in 5-6yrs, bought néw from created in Melbourne. Just a thought. Perfect condition. Come off my r33. It's still on there matter a fact. Could even put it in the .48 housing as you mentioned above and sell the HKS rear. ???But I'd leave .64 cos.48 would choke it wouldn't it Darren ?? Anyway just a offer mate. Sorry to pinch the thread. Cheers Josh. Edited June 8, 2013 by Joshbigt62r Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/403/#findComment-6883404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet_r31 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Darren just put a T28 on it and it will do well. used a t28 before and a hks 2530. But yeh a standard style T28 modified to fit a .48 housing would be around the mark in my eyes cheers darren Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/403/#findComment-6883508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet_r31 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 (edited) Darren just buy my HKS 2535.no more lag than a 2530. And on a ca18det would be crazy fun alround. Comes with dump oil water lines. $950ono. .64 rear. I had one on my s13 ca18det 8-9 years ago and was mental fun. Done 15,000km in 5-6yrs, bought néw from created in Melbourne. Just a thought. Perfect condition. Come off my r33. It's still on there matter a fact. Could even put it in the .48 housing as you mentioned above and sell the HKS rear. ??? But I'd leave .64 cos.48 would choke it wouldn't it Darren ?? Anyway just a offer mate. Sorry to pinch the thread. Cheers Josh. lol, its not for a ca18, and i have used a hks 2530 on these motors 12ish yrs ago..was just wondering what stao had. its not for me, i just sold a mint 2530 for $600 last month as i had it sitting in a box for 7 yrs cheers 'darren Edited June 8, 2013 by jet_r31 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/403/#findComment-6883510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypergear Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 Also depending on the compression ratio of the motor its going to fit. For a modern 10.5 : 1 motor, a slightly larger turbine end is helpful on stopping it from pining on higher boost level. Like a 1.5L engine on that sort of compression ratio should be pretty responsive with a .64 turbine end with a 68mm compressor if the goal is about 24psi. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/403/#findComment-6883670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet_r31 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 no stao, 8.5.1 comp, 2 valve , non crossflow, poor flowing head toyota k motor head. can you fit a larger turbine than standard T28 spec stuff in the .48 T25 housing out of interest? cheers darren Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/403/#findComment-6883677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTScotT Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Lol @ Toyota K series. Come on daz just 4A the poor thing and put it out of its misery. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/403/#findComment-6883777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet_r31 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 lol, its not me, was just asking for someone and out of general interest, as Stao might have something in his bag of tricks i went 4A a long time ago,(although i havn't finished it..ffs) cheers darren Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/403/#findComment-6884032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTScotT Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 lol cars - the never ending stoooorrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/403/#findComment-6884327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypergear Posted June 10, 2013 Author Share Posted June 10, 2013 no stao, 8.5.1 comp, 2 valve , non crossflow, poor flowing head toyota k motor head. can you fit a larger turbine than standard T28 spec stuff in the .48 T25 housing out of interest? cheers darren yes I have made couple of turbine wheels that goes into the T28's bearing housings. This is mine personal CA18det turbocharger out of my Sil180 few years ago. I've made this after been defected to pass EPA with (it worked). lol It has a small 52 76mm comp wheel with a massive 65mm turbine. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/261613-hypergear-turbochargers-and-high-flow-services-development-thread/page/403/#findComment-6884541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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