Hypergear Turbochargers and High flow Services Development thread

[Mitcho_7]

  On 29/06/2012 at 2:30 AM, t_revz said:

Just put hi-lighter over it. Forgive how rough it is etc.

Yellow is original 315 result

Blue is 307 ex gate

Green is new one with .82 rear

Maybe Stao can get proper comparison sheet when he try's next wheel

Thats with all of them running about 22psi yeh?

I think the new setup internally gated has the nicest curve

[t_revz]

  On 29/06/2012 at 3:16 AM, Mitcho_7 said:

Thats with all of them running about 22psi yeh?

I think the new setup internally gated has the nicest curve

Didn't check boost actually But they are all final results so yeah around that. Too hard searching around on my phone to do it properly

But new one runs 82 housing not 63 so should be cooler on track. yet response is still on par.

[hypergear]

Further updates. This is the 2nd SS2 prototype been trailed. More responsive and made more power to previous version. Internally gated.

Max of 312rwkws on BP 98 and 210rwkws by 4000RPMs

22psi by 3750RPMs, 20psi by 3650 RPMs:

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Max of 348rwkws on E85, probably another 15kws in it as my fuel pump is out.

I believe this turbo would make a pretty responsive 250~280rwkws internally gated on a stock manifold on pump with around 18psi of boost. Would go crazy to run on external gate and e85.

[Dan_J]

great work stao

200rpm more responsive and 10 more kws

now to bit the bullet and try thin titanium exhaust wheels

[Mitcho_7]

I think that is the nicest variation of the ss2 you have produced stao.

Will that be the variation you sell as the default ss2 now ?

Edited June 29, 2012 by Mitcho_7

[t_revz]

Any chance of over-laying SS2 results Stao? How does this and last one compare on the road?

[ARTZ]

hahahahaha ...almost identical to my Kando , But on 98 with IG....nice work Stao....

[t_revz]

  On 29/06/2012 at 2:50 PM, ARTZ said:

hahahahaha ...almost identical to my Kando , But on 98 with IG....nice work Stao....

Too late now. You already picked your side

[jet_r31]

that ss2 is impressive, how much would they sell for in a external wastegate housing?

cheers

darren

[Mitcho_7]

will this new ss2 internal gate varation, the one you posted the graph of just above, be the same price as the current internal ss2's?

[hypergear]

The 5 bolt externally gated version is cheaper then the bolton internally gated version. That is $1100 The factory bolton version is $1375 and oil line is additional $88 which is required to complete the setup.

For any one whom's looking for the externally gated setup, I can supply brae auto's high mount manifold with any turbochargers, with $200 discount off total.

[ARTZ]

pretty good value..

  On 29/06/2012 at 11:09 PM, t_revz said:

Too late now. You already picked your side

Its never too late

If I ever get done for my external gate prompting a rebuild, I would definately consider it, until then my car is fast and I am happy...

[Manuel Kasko]

  On 30/06/2012 at 4:28 AM, hypergear said:

The 5 bolt externally gated version is cheaper then the bolton internally gated version. That is $1100 The factory bolton version is $1375 and oil line is additional $88 which is required to complete the setup.

For any one whom's looking for the externally gated setup, I can supply brea auto's high mount manifold for $900 with any turbochargers, they are $1100 retail, so $200 off the total package.

50mm external gate is for $200.

Fark cheaper then the SS1PU

[Mitcho_7]

  On 30/06/2012 at 6:30 AM, ARTZ said:

If I ever get done for my external gate prompting a rebuild, I would definately consider it, until then my car is fast and I am happy...

I thought external gates were ok as long as they are plumbed into the exhaust?

Or are you running a screamer pipe?

[Dan_J]

external gate and after market turbo's are illegal in VIC

[jet_r31]

  On 30/06/2012 at 4:28 AM, hypergear said:

The 5 bolt externally gated version is cheaper then the bolton internally gated version. That is $1100 The factory bolton version is $1375 and oil line is additional $88 which is required to complete the setup.

For any one whom's looking for the externally gated setup, I can supply brea auto's high mount manifold for $900 with any turbochargers, they are $1100 retail, so $200 off the total package.

50mm external gate is for $200.

the breas are a side mount manifold yes, or do they do a top mount aswell?

[Mitcho_7]

  On 30/06/2012 at 4:28 AM, hypergear said:

For any one whom's looking for the externally gated setup, I can supply brea auto's high mount manifold for $900 with any turbochargers, they are $1100 retail, so $200 off the total package.

50mm external gate is for $200.

Can you weld up something to run the external wastegate off the underside of the rear housing (and plum back into the exhaust futher down) rather than having to buy a new manifold or does that not really work that well?

[jet_r31]

Stao, in your eyes, what would work best if you had 2 options with the ss2, a internal gate ss2 on a brea manifold..or a external

gate ss2 with ext gate put on stock manifold?

cheers

darren

[hypergear]

  On 30/06/2012 at 10:54 AM, Mitcho_7 said:

Can you weld up something to run the external wastegate off the underside of the rear housing (and plum back into the exhaust futher down) rather than having to buy a new manifold or does that not really work that well?

It can be done, gain is more significant if the external gate is fitted on to the exhaust manifold.

  On 30/06/2012 at 11:06 AM, jet_r31 said:

Stao, in your eyes, what would work best if you had 2 options with the ss2, a internal gate ss2 on a brea manifold..or a external

gate ss2 with ext gate put on stock manifold?

cheers

darren

Obviously Externally gated setup would pickup more power. There should be 20kws gain running external gate on my current setup.

[jet_r31]

well I wasn't sure it was so obvious, you said you picked up 15rwkw going from Brea from standard mani ..so i would have thought

the gains from standard manifold to ext gate might have only closed that sort of figure in..guess its one of those things you(not you, but someone)

really have to back to back...

cheers

darren