Tr43 Install R32

[agentx]

Hi guys, I've got a new tr43 that I'll be putting in shortly into my rb20 r32 skyline. I'm everything myself so just wanted to know a couple of things.

These are the parts i have ...

tr43 turbo

braided oil line

manifold gasket and turbo gasket

v band clamp for the dump

bold to block the water lines

safc II for the tune after the install (will be done on a dyno)

Now the question is are there any other parts i'll need to get it up and running? I'm worried about what i need to do with the dump pipe, i've got an aftermarket exhaust till the dump as far as i can tell ... its around 3 inches till the dump. I probably won't be using the stock dump pipe yea? so i have to get the car towed somewhere to make up the dump or?

anyone using it currently or some pics of install would be alot of help

Cheers

[raZ1911]

If its with the stock manifold dont you need a little spacer plate as parts of the turbo will hit the manifold?

Pm / call hypergear and ask if this is everything you need.

[hypergear]

That should be it. Bolt every thing in. Make sure the oil feeding line does not touch the manifold. Most exhust shops will make you the front pipe for $200. Run in for 1000KMs and then dyno tune.

[JonnoHR31]

run what in?

[paulr33]

it is critical you check the bearing type in the turbocharger

the std skyline turbo on the R32 is a ball bearing water cooled, oil cooled turbocharger

if the turbocharger you fit is different bearing type (thrust, plain, journal) bearing then YOU MUST change the oil feeds

the oil feeds on your RB20 suit ball bearing - if you use a different bearing type, the oil flow lines & restrictor must be changed - that is, the turbocharger needs more oil to lubricate the bearings. if you fit the existing oil lines and it happens to be anything other than ball bearing (likely) only a small amount of oil flows into the cartridge, which will cause the turbocharger to fail

DO NOT try this or even "hope" you will shag the cartridge within an hour of running the turbocharger

[paulr33]

the oil line you have, did it come from the manufacturer of the turbo as part of a kit

or did you just choose it cos it was new and braided lines? if it came as part of a kit, then check it has a different restrictor, and doesnt re-use your existing one

if so, then its fine to proceed

[agentx]

yes it came with the turbo. This is what Tao (hypergear) uses with these turbo's. And are stock 32 gtst turbos ball bearing? Are you sure?

So i guess i'll bolt it all up and then get it towed to an exhaust shop nearby thanks for the help guys! hopefully i don't have any more snapped bolts when im doing all this. This is why I'd love to do it in a workshop and pay them for their tools / support lol, anyone got one?

p.s. Kudos to Tao for a very friendly / honest experience

Edited March 21, 2009 by agentx

[agentx]

Guys just an update, I worked on the car for around 7 hours straight today and I've managed to get the turbo & manifold out (THANK F**K!!!!).

Now the problems are, I've broken 4 more studs so now there's 6 studs sitting flush with the head (i.e. they're not sticking out of the head at all). I'm going to buy a drill and bits and ez out's tomorrow from Bunnings to see if I can solve that problem. Then its just a matter of blocking the water lines (the turbo is oil cooled only).

Any advice on how i can block the water in / out ? do i just tighten the right size screws into the block?

Also, I'll have to make a custom pipe from the turbo compressor to the cooler as the stock one won't fit (any idea who'd do this?).

Also, if anyone is in the Pascoe Vale area ... I'll happily pay a bit + beer etc to come and give me a hand / company ... you should know what you're doing though lol.

Cheers

[agentx]

no replies? everyones away for easter eh lol.

Well ... I called Thread Doctor ... he came on a sunday, worked for around 1.5 hours to remove the 4 broken studs and took out the rest of the 8 and fitted the new studs I purchased and charged me 5x less then what I thought he would (he had to drive around 33 Km's to come to my place).

Overall, a million votes to the thread doctor ... GREAT guy and VERY good at what he does.

Now to get my oil line welded (new one's too short, I wanna retain the old oil return pipe) ... and bolt it all up and get the dump made.

Cheers

[paulr33]

yes the standard turbochargers are all oil cooled, water cooled, ball bearing on the GTST's and GTR's

when you trash this turbocharger be careful at switch try and let it idle for a bit to let the oil keep flowing and not cook the bearings as there no watercooling system. also you may to alter your oil change frequency (ask the turbo guy who sold it). hopefully you dont

[hypergear]

mmm.. The oil feedling line is half meter long. it runs straight into your block and to the top of the turbo between the turbo and chassis. Do not use stock oil delivery line as its got a oil restriction valve in it. stock T3x oil returne flange fits.

I've got a mobile mechanic who works on site. If you want give me a call and I will pass on his contact information.

As long as the turbo's getting enough oil flow its not going to get cooked. So do not use stock oil delivery line and fittings.

[agentx]

yea I've got your oil feed line and thats the one I'm gonna use mate, I was talking about the oil RETURN line

[sic200]

yes the standard turbochargers are all oil cooled, water cooled, ball bearing on the GTST's and GTR's

when you trash this turbocharger be careful at switch try and let it idle for a bit to let the oil keep flowing and not cook the bearings as there no watercooling system. also you may to alter your oil change frequency (ask the turbo guy who sold it). hopefully you dont

rb20 turbo ballbearing? wtf

[agentx]

Cars now with Roshan (driftline) ... i'll pick it up when its ready couldn't be arsed anymore with it.

Thanks for all your help though guys!