Pod Vs Air Box

[ClutchBurndout-:(]

ok ok a question many have asked, but im sitll not satisfied

my car has around abouts 19kwrw, im running a BMC pod, now, im sorta getting sick of the sucking noise i get everytime i accelorate, not realy annoying but sorta want to get rid of it, so i am thinking of putting my air box back in, is there realy that much difference between the two? like, does the pod give so much more kwrw that it should be there? or does it do bugger all else that its not worth the sucking noise?

cheers

[(OO)Firty Free(OO)]

Know what ya mean the standard turbo gets quite annoying with a POD

Standard Airbox fine imo, I was running 330ish rwkw with one (K&N panel filter as well of course). .

[ClutchBurndout-:(]

Know what ya mean the standard turbo gets quite annoying with a POD

Standard Airbox fine imo, I was running 330ish rwkw with one (K&N panel filter as well of course). .

yea thats what i thought, i dotn see how the pod can be better apart from more exposure to air, with the snorkel to the from bar i dont see how its that bad, but i think the pod starts beating the air box at higher rpm? it can only suck so much air through the snorkel haha

[(OO)Firty Free(OO)]

yea thats what i thought, i dotn see how the pod can be better apart from more exposure to air, with the snorkel to the from bar i dont see how its that bad, but i think the pod starts beating the air box at higher rpm? it can only suck so much air through the snorkel haha

Takes a lot of Air to flow 330rwkw cant be too restrictive, used to spin people out when they looked under the bonnet and it looked stock.

[2LV8ETR]

There's nothing wrong with a good quality panel filter.

But I love the sound of my turbo spooling up at 24psi, and the air box takes a lot of that noise away!!!!

Different strokes for different blokes.

[Bakes]

You might lose 5kw, you might lose 0kw.

[quarkgun]

From what i've read, unless the pod is enclosed and thus is shielded from the hot air, it's actually detrimental to the cars performance.

My car had a pod when i bought it, i changed it back to stock air box. Didn't notice any difference. I agree that the pod is too noisy - i prefer the stock sound

[ClutchBurndout-:(]

my pod has a box around it and a pipe from the front bar sucking in cold air to the under side of the box, i think that it gives a decent amount of cold air, but yea the noise is annoying lol

[gotRICE?]

From what i've read, unless the pod is enclosed and thus is shielded from the hot air, it's actually detrimental to the cars performance.

My car had a pod when i bought it, i changed it back to stock air box. Didn't notice any difference. I agree that the pod is too noisy - i prefer the stock sound

x2. I put an Apexi pod into my 33.

Got sick of the noise pretty quick.

Changed back to stock airbox and Apexi panel and havnt looked back. Love the cute little spool noise the turbo makes.

And might i add, noticed no change in the way the car drives.

[shaun123]

Sorry to jack your topic but i was wondering if anybody knows the answer to this quick question:

Is a Non-Turbo series1 airbox the same as a Turbo series 2 airbox? can they be used interchangeably ?

[RBwhatever]

I don't wanna sound like a jerk towards you or anything, but you did do a search before you created this thread yes?

For your power you'd be fine with an airbox no worries. I have a pod, only because my cooler kit didn't accommodate for the air box, and it was easier swapping to a pod rather than butchering a perfectly fine item(the snorkel I mean). I have since boxed off the pod and routed a CAI and having the said annoying sucking noise which doesn't really bother me.

And if you feel a power difference between the 2, please report back with, "my car makes 11ty more bummerwatts" or "11ty less bum watts" because you won't feel a difference. And if you think you do......it's all in your head.

If your box fits back in ok, put it back in if it floats your floaty. And it's one less thing for a copper to whinge about. Win win

[ClutchBurndout-:(]

heh, yea i did a quick search, but i fail at finding words to search, "pod vs airbox" turned up bugger all, but yes, i think i will put the air box back in, i do also love that little whssssssssssss the turbo does when spooling hehe, even if im the only one that hears it

[Jaysiin]

i actually have a pod and wanted to change it... however i recently found out the snorkel doesnt fit due to the intercooler piping... has anyone found a way to use the stock box with the cooler pipes there? anyone make a custom snorkel?

[Fry_33]

I have 200rwkw with a GT2530 turbo. I have the standard airbox and a pipercross panel filter. It is currently tuned to correct AFR's. These turbo's generally make 220-230rwkw's going by the results I've seen. There was a dip in the upper range of my power curve and it is annoying to know it could do better. We took the airbox snorkle, lid and filter off and I instantly gained 13rwkw. It doesn't sound like much and there was still a dip up high in the rev range. However, since the engine could breath better it must have started looking up another map section as the AFR's became rich in the dip section. If these were sorted out then it should hit the typical power figures.

If you actually take a good look at the snorkle and airbox lid they are pretty restrictive. You probably won't notice the lack of power changing from pod to airbox on the street as you aren't really driving high in the rev range which is where the most potential for improvement is. The other point is if you change something and don't tune it to suit it you won't know what affect it had on AFR's and whether there is more/less potential.

The less flow restriction (pressure drops) there are to the air going in and gases coming out the easier it is on the engine and turbo.

[SS8_Gohan]

^ your intake pipe was most likely sucking close, can do that with that sort of power. look for 'rev210's intake pipe mod' or buy a silicone one.

as has been mentioned, stock airbox is fine, but you might need to get a silicone intake pipe to stop the 'sucking closed' issue

[Fry_33]

^ your intake pipe was most likely sucking close, can do that with that sort of power. look for 'rev210's intake pipe mod' or buy a silicone one.

as has been mentioned, stock airbox is fine, but you might need to get a silicone intake pipe to stop the 'sucking closed' issue

Thanks for the info. Unfortunately that's all been looked at. I did buy one of those silicone inlet pipes a while back but I don't really rate them. I don't want to start a war on that though, just my personal preference. I have a piece of stainless steel inside the rubber inlet pipe so it should not be sucking closed at all, pretty sure this was looked at as a cause anyway. I think this is what you mean by the rev210 mod?

[R31Nismoid]

Go back and test without the filter, tell trent its for SAU R&D and it needs to be free

lol

[rev210]

I have 200rwkw with a GT2530 turbo. I have the standard airbox and a pipercross panel filter. It is currently tuned to correct AFR's. These turbo's generally make 220-230rwkw's going by the results I've seen. There was a dip in the upper range of my power curve and it is annoying to know it could do better. We took the airbox snorkle, lid and filter off and I instantly gained 13rwkw. It doesn't sound like much and there was still a dip up high in the rev range. However, since the engine could breath better it must have started looking up another map section as the AFR's became rich in the dip section. If these were sorted out then it should hit the typical power figures.

If you actually take a good look at the snorkle and airbox lid they are pretty restrictive. You probably won't notice the lack of power changing from pod to airbox on the street as you aren't really driving high in the rev range which is where the most potential for improvement is. The other point is if you change something and don't tune it to suit it you won't know what affect it had on AFR's and whether there is more/less potential.

The less flow restriction (pressure drops) there are to the air going in and gases coming out the easier it is on the engine and turbo.

I agree that the snorkel could be improved. But, dyno with the bonnet 'up' isn't really worth anything as it negates the airpressure related position of the snorkel intake.

[CRoNic...]

As if you're sick of the sucking sound.

[juggernaut1]

Here's another option that could be adapted - paint it black to give it that OEM look:

and installed - note that the filter backs up against the back of the headlight to draw air in from outside of the engine bay:

Edited March 25, 2009 by juggernaut1