411rwhp from stock internals

[Guest INASNT]

If you are running the TD06 only on 1 bar, it'd be marginally faster than a well set-up stock turbo; however it would feel quite faster than before because of the way it spools up.  

only marginially faster??

*** u really have no clue by stating that, at 1 bar the td06 will be flowing around 50lb/min of air where as the stock will only be able to produce 30lb/min max!! Thats a big ***ing difference, like 200hp!

[rev210]

Originally posted by Emre

Being a passanger in a car that's equipped with a Trust turbo like the TD06 may give you the impression that it's fast. Unless he was having a nap on the 1-2 change, a coffee on the 2-3 change and maybe a quickie on the 3-4 change, that 111mph is a good indicator of the power.  

He didn't have one run and pack up, he had 5-6 runs, out of which the 111mph was the best.  13.88 is obviously is slow for the mph and can be improved on but i can't see anyone else improving on the mph by more than 1-2mph.

It was fast. Not as fast as my car (when I was driving with the old Nitrous kit activated). The test was for me was the cars pulling power in top gear, the speed at which it accellerated. Not 'felt' but, rather 'seen' from the speedo side of things.

At the drag strip you can completely stuff the 60ft and still end up with a good terminal speed. If you drop revs between gear changes by shifting too slow then the terminal is greatly effected. The problem Rob has is that his TD06 has a rotory sized exhaust housing and he's got the standard manifold making for a power band that is a little unforgiving. 111mph from my experience is NOT an indicator of this cars power potential, only an indicator of the average power rob was able to maintain over the 1/4 that day.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Good to see the debate continues:D

As another aside, Got Boost ran 344rwhp on SST's dyno the same day as mine, he just ran a flat 12 with 1.83 60ft on Nittto's. Tell me that's fake ponies:D

[Guest INASNT]

paul

i wouldnt bother running unless u got some nittos

[DoughBoy]

Funny thread. If you only read factual posts from people with real experience and knowledge it comes down to 3 pages instead of 10.

Just adding another thing, if i don't flat-change between gears my car is slower than a N/A civic.... but you would think a T51R has more potential than that?

[N I B]

I don't even get close to the Dynajets power figures over here.

WA had a shootout a while ago on a Dynajet and an example was a Datto 1600 made 400 here and 440 the next morning on the Dyno jet.The same Dyno read 735hp in a Silvia that ran 13.6@190kmh all night with a good driver,so don't compare a DD dyno to a Dynajet. My Dyno has a reputation for reading low in WA but i think the others are high.

[tomj]

no doubt ..... everyone in perth knows certain a dyno that reads way high .... i wont mention the name as it isnt the right thing to do ... but all the perth guys knows where and who.

[N I B]

Got boosts run was 4mph faster than robs on nittos and with a good driver so the potential for Robs car is huge if we get some Nittos on the back and a driver thats had more time on the track.

Don't forget that Robs car is an R33 so it is a lot fatter car.

Got Boosts car was at the same Dyno day that GTSt Vspecs car was so the power figures are sweet remember 12.01@115mph with 344hp in a true road car is going well, this car has more to give with rear end setup.

[Roy]

If you are running the TD06 only on 1 bar, it'd be marginally faster than a well set-up stock turbo;

Not wantng to throw mud but this is pretty far from the truth. My RB20 with std turbo and 14psi went ok:rolleyes:

With the TD06 at 8psi it use to spin its head off thru 1st & 2nd gears on well used tyres. It was still quicker then my old setup. Now with new but still crappy rubber it now has pretty good traction and pulls hard to 8500rpm and would leave any std turbo RB20 for dead, all this at 8psi with plenty of work still to do until i get the most out of it at 8psi, let alone the 15-20psi i hope to get away with.

if i don't flat-change between gears my car is slower than a N/A civic.... but you would think a T51R has more potential than that?

Your even more critical of your car then i am of mine. It goes well considering you aint using any revs or boost. Its still quick and the sound the thing makes justifies its place in any engine bay.

[Emre]

Steve,

You are a pretty harsh judge, i won't be able to sleep now.

A brief search on google showed me the flow capability of the TD06, I must say it's a bit more than i thought on paper. In real life i've seen two of them make 535rwhp at 20 psi on 3lt hence the reason i doubted 344rwhp at 14.5 psi on 2.5 lt, with one. The obvious reason here is both cars have been on different dynos and one is reading quite a bit more than what i am used to.

EDIT: And don't you worry, as soon as i get of my P's i will start to modify my car as well.

Great another skyline driver on P's No wonder the insurance premiums are so ****ed.

My comment was put there to see what sort of responses i'd get. Certainly didn't expect you to reply the way you have, pretty much straight after your incident. FYI: I have a maximum no claim bonus.

PS: The reason i can't start to modify my car is not because of the insurance, but my dad won't let me before i get off my P's.

Denjam,

As i just found out, the maximum amount of air TD06 can push on 1 bar is 44 lb/min, but a stock RB25 can only make use of 39lb/min @ 7k rpm.

Roy,

How much power are you making with the TD06 @ 8 psi and how much did you make with a stock turbo @ 14 psi...?

[SeriesIIGTST]

Emre,

Totally off topic but how does one acquire a maximum no claim bonus whilst on P's? I've been driving for years with no incident and just got to maximum no claim. I sure as hell was no where near it when on my P's!

[rob77]

Originally posted by Emre

My comment was put there to see what sort of responses i'd get. Certainly didn't expect you to reply the way you have, pretty much straight after your incident. FYI: I have a maximum no claim bonus.

PS: The reason i can't start to modify my car is not because of the insurance, but my dad won't let me before i get off my P's.  

The only way you could have maximum no claim bonus was if your daddy was insuring your vehicle for you. I admit I am a very stereotypical person, but thats because I see it all the time where I work. My accident has nothing to do with my skill level, I just didnt simply see the roundabout, if anything my skill level saved me from doing more damage to the car.

[Roy]

How much power are you making with the TD06 @ 8 psi and how much did you make with a stock turbo @ 14 psi...?

I dont know...my car has never been on a dyno. Pure guesswork i think my car had about 145-155rwkws with stock turbo, and has about 170-185rwkws now with the TD06 at 8psi.

I think rev210 touched on it, you only have to look at the speedo in 3rd and 4th gear to see how the thing accelerates MUCH quicker then the std turbo to know its got way more poke.

Those numbers could be way off, but they are only numbers... the car is quick enough for me now so if that number is 180rwkws or 230rwkws i dont care.

Disregard my dribble which appears in italics

When i get my new flux capacitor im hoping for this much

...if im still short of this power figure then i may switch from premium unleaded to spent uranium rods as myu fuel source:rolleyes:

[N I B]

TD06s are not all the same so don't compare a GTR twin to what Rob has.Robs would never hit boost as a twin.

[Roy]

STeve-SST that was an attempt at humour! i am aware that his isnt a twin setup, and i wasnt comparing it to a twin setup

Disregard my dribble which appears in italics

...just wanted to point out what could be achieved if you use a flux capacitor and perhaps uranium as a fuel additive![

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Try and keep on topic guys, there seem to be alot of posts that are detracting from the thread.

[Roy]

Sorry!

A serious question though, GTS-t VSPEC what redline are you using... as i imagine if the thing is tuned well then the main concern isnt detonation and piston damage but bent rods etc.

If you keep the rpm sensible perhaps even drop 200-500rpm then i would imagine you could get some runs safely under your belt with std pistons.

Who has actaully had a well tuned std internal engine let go at a certain power figure that could be attributed to std parts. It would seem the RB30 std bottom end is good enough for some very quick VLs.

[Emre]

SeriesIIGTSTS,

I am not on P's dude.

Rob77,

I don't have a daddy who funds my GTR either.

Just wanted to see who likes to attack the keyboard for a cheap shot.

[EnricoPalazzo]

Originally posted by Emre

Steve,  

You are a pretty harsh judge, i won't be able to sleep now.  

A brief search on google showed me the flow capability of the TD06, I must say it's a bit more than i thought on paper. In real life i've seen two of them make 535rwhp at 20 psi on 3lt hence the reason i doubted 344rwhp at 14.5 psi on 2.5 lt, with one. The obvious reason here is both cars have been on different dynos and one is reading quite a bit more than what i am used to.  

Haha so let me get this straight. U automatically presume that cos a car has .5lt less displacement that it cant make decent power. Are u assuming that between a 3lt and 2.5lt engine that the only determinants in making power is the boost ran and engine size. That is pretty naive and stupid. U cant comapre 2 totally different engines and then say one cant make that much power cos a totally different engine mad xxxx at whatever psi. Like steve said, u just have shown australia what an idiot u r.

SteveSST and Paul : Man im a believer in the power

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Roy,

Thanks for the question. My redline is set at 7500rpm, a few hundred above stock, we still think it's quite safe with the relatively low boost we're running, but the plan is for forged rods later down the track:D