Front Mount Intercoolers

[Trozzle]

Why am I hearing that to register a vehicle with an aftermarket FMI, or at least a vehicle that isn't fitted stock with a FMI, you are required to have an engineer's certificate?

The list of PDF files StinkyPoo linked to in the Turbo Timer thread didn't seem to have anything relating to air-intake of the engine, be it Turbos, Superchargers, pod-filters or anything...unless I missed it lol

Anyone got anything solid on this?

[nerm]

i was told that you could only have one intake mode.. ie pod filter or intercooler.. not both. if you have more than one you need to get it engineered.

im not saying that the above statement is correct, that is what i was told but the engineer

i got my pod filter engineered because i had to do my coilovers so i thought i might as well do that too. i also got my pedals and boost gauge engineered

[Trozzle]

That's what I've heard also...So if the only engine mods on a car I'm looking at are FMI and Turbo-back exhaust, it *should* be ok?

Also, by "engineered" you mean certified, or (re)fitted by an engineer?

Approximately how much that cost?

Thanks

Edited March 31, 2009 by Trozzle

[StinkyPoo]

From what I read (my interpretation) any mod that increases the performance(I guess they mean power) or emission of the car needs to be certified unless it was a option for that model.

[Trozzle]

hmm...that makes a bit more sense I suppose.

[StinkyPoo]

Yeh, I don't think many cops would pick on you cos it's soo easy to remove a FMIC. Anyways, here is the section of text:

1.1 MODIFICATIONS NOT REQUIRING CERTIFICATION

• Fitting a replacement new, used or reconditioned engine.

• Fitting a manufacturer’s optional engine together with any associated components as supplied by the manufacturer for that same model vehicle.

• Fitting replacement original equipment (or equivalent) engine and exhaust components.

• Fitting replacement original equipment, equivalent or better, components that have no influence on engine performance or emissions. (e.g. higher volume oil pump than original)

In all of the above cases, if the engine is modified, it must be certified under the relevant Approval Code.

1.2 MODIFICATIONS REQUIRING CERTIFICATION UNDER LA APPROVAL CODES

• Fitting equivalent engines (within 20% of original power and engine mass).

• Fitting performance engines.

• Installing a supercharger or turbocharger.

• Modifying engines and engine components.

[**RB2530**]

One reason is that generally to fit a FMIC you need to cut extra holes in your car for pipework.

If you cut holes without reinforcing hole perimeter you have reduced structural integrity of Monocoque chassis..(technically anyway).

Any modifications to car chassis obviously needs to be engineer certified...

There are other regulations that are State dependant...

[rick444]

Does anyone know how much an engineer's cert costs?

[Bullet32]

Engineering costs depend on how many things you need engineered and who you go through to get it done... It can be $500 - $600 or up to $2500 - $3000.

[nerm]

i used john wilson of AKZ engineering. cost me $550 to engineer my coilovers, pod filter, non standard wheels, boost gauge, aftermarket pedals and turbo timer. it took about a week to get the report back from him andi had no issues getting my car registered. i know some people have had problems with him.. i believe one was naughtyruski

[W1ngnut]

i used john wilson of AKZ engineering. cost me $550 to engineer my coilovers, pod filter, non standard wheels, boost gauge, aftermarket pedals and turbo timer. it took about a week to get the report back from him andi had no issues getting my car registered. i know some people have had problems with him.. i believe one was naughtyruski

I've dealt with John on my previous car modification pre-skyline.. Not going to say anything here.

I went to Ray Spence to get my engineering done (POD, Wheels, FMIC, Exhaust) for $550. Took 8 hours to get the report in my hands (dropped off in the morning, picked up in the arvo). I think it was Mick that actually put me on to Ray Spence (cheers for that).

[Bullet32]

No problems sfrizza. +1 for Ray Spence.

[Trozzle]

On the note of needing an engineer's cert for mods, where I read that, it also stated that interstate certificates are sufficient. Would a Queensland "modplate" count for this? If all mods have been certified and the car has been given this "modplate", I'm wondering if that will count enough.

[Bullet32]

Take the 'modplate' to Ray Spence at Canberra Motorworks and ask him if it is enough, if its not he will look after an ACT certificate for you.

[GT-R32]

I've dealt with John on my previous car modification pre-skyline.. Not going to say anything here.

I went to Ray Spence to get my engineering done (POD, Wheels, FMIC, Exhaust) for $550. Took 8 hours to get the report in my hands (dropped off in the morning, picked up in the arvo). I think it was Mick that actually put me on to Ray Spence (cheers for that).

x2 about not saying anything, I could say a massive amount.

I highly recommend Ray Spence.

[Trozzle]

Called Dickson Motor Registry this arvo, the modplate doesn't count for anything unless it's backed up by signed paperwork...that isn't necessarily a problem at this point, at least all the mods are done properly so getting an engineer's certificate from Ray when I've got the car won't be a trouble...only more money >.<

Other than the engineer's certificate, can anyone see any real reason I shouldn't grab this car while I can? http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/R3...ht-t242518.html

Currently asking $14000 (plus $521 to send it to Canberra), and it has a new clutch as stated on the last page.

Thanks

[GT-R32]

Personally for that kind of coin I would buy a real GTR. But that's a personal thing.

[Trozzle]

33 or 32? I have a small thing against 32s, something about the way they look...dunno. All the good 33 GTRs I've seen advertised have been around $22k - $28k lol, so it's a fair bit more.

[TiTAN]

you cant get a real 33 GTR for 14k for that it will have to be a 32 that's probably ~20 years old and needs lots of parts replaced.

[GTRKat]

For that kinda money I'd be worried about what kinda GTR you were getting even if it was a 32.

That 33 looks ok. If ya like Whale watching