Half Size (width) Alloy Radiators

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has anyone here had any experience using a half size (width) alloy radiator with their skyline? I'm considering a different intercooler/radiator setup and the half width radiator frees up more room in the engine bay.

I have seen these being used on turbocharged hondas running lots of power, mitsi evo's and other fwd cars to fit large turbos.

they are thicker than factory radiators and aluminium dual/triple cores? the cooling ability should be sufficient????

[salival]

has anyone here had any experience using a half size (width) alloy radiator with their skyline? I'm considering a different intercooler/radiator setup and the half width radiator frees up more room in the engine bay.

I have seen these being used on turbocharged hondas running lots of power, mitsi evo's and other fwd cars to fit large turbos.

they are thicker than factory radiators and aluminium dual/triple cores? the cooling ability should be sufficient????

Hi, I actually make alunimium radiators for a job, mainly for performance cars..

I would *not* recommend this, stick to a front mount setup or if you want to go something different, go water to air..

[aphid]

Are you sure the cars you've seen them on arn't dedicated drag cars?

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nope, lots of highly modified hondas run half size radiators. they come factory with a half width radiator, so upgrade to an alloy thicker version. allows fitment of a large turbo.

ive seen the setup on evo's as well.

will have a search tonight for some examples.

surely if I use a core twice a thick as a standard radiator and made from a more heat conductive material, i can have the same cooling efficiency as a full width thin factory radiator?

[rodger1]

nope, lots of highly modified hondas run half size radiators. they come factory with a half width radiator, so upgrade to an alloy thicker version. allows fitment of a large turbo.

ive seen the setup on evo's as well.

will have a search tonight for some examples.

surely if I use a core twice a thick as a standard radiator and made from a more heat conductive material, i can have the same cooling efficiency as a full width thin factory radiator?

I've seen them on a skyline but the only reason it was running one was it ran on alcohol which runs a lot cooler. they wouldn't work on a large engine car because they just don't have the cooling capacity for hot days in traffic. if you we're only going to use the car as a track car with sustained high speeds and good airflow over the core then maybe, they are not suited for everyday skylines

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http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1722429

many many more here : http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t...747&page=26

lots running 300fwkw+ daily drivers.

id imagine the same heat is produced from the 6cyl vs the 4cyl, since heat is generated by fuel combusting. so same heat output if youre making say 300hp whether it be from a 6cyl 2.5 or 4cl 1.8.

[R31Nismoid]

As you said - they come factory with 1/2 - therefore a replacement half is fine.

Personally - i would not take the gamble. Lot of time, money, effort to find out it doesn't work

[gotRICE?]

What exactly do you need the room for?

You say it will free up space, sure. But it will only free up a bit on one side.

Then you will fill the other side up with a thicker radiator + thermo fan.

Civics come with a half size standard, so do the CTR's.

Integras have full size ones, and people do change to thicker half sized ones in them too and dont have issues. (Turbo setup wise)

I dont see why it wouldnt work, but it seems pointless. You'd probly want to make up some sort of shrouding to direct the air towards it too.

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i was thinking of running a different intercooler setup.

half size radiator with the intercooler beside it, shorter piping and better flow

[gotRICE?]

wouldnt the flow be the same?

Or are you just talking about for the radiator flow?

If its not broke, dont fix it

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airflow through the radiator and intercooler.

radiator behind intercooler gets warm air, and less because of the ic.

ic gets less flow because of the radiator blocking air behind it etc

[gotRICE?]

I think your being a little pedantic dont you?

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im just suggesting a different idea and seeing what peoples opinions are.

thats cool if you think its 'pedantic'

shorter intercooler piping and better flow sounds like advantages which are worth the effort if a half width alloy radiator will be enough for engine cooling.

[gotRICE?]

Well it is really.

If it was so important dont you think someone else would have tried it? Like a Japanese tuner?

How exactly would the piping be shorter anyway? It still has to travel to the same place. All your doing is having a smaller core to fill. So you would actually have more piping really. To cover the distance that the core didnt take up?

[R31Nismoid]

airflow through the radiator and intercooler.

radiator behind intercooler gets warm air, and less because of the ic.

ic gets less flow because of the radiator blocking air behind it etc

Mate my I/C sits directly infront of my cooler, its basically the same size too...

And my temps on the street are 69-72 degree's. There is no problem with airflow or cooling of anything. Your worrying about nothing.

I highly doubt you'll get a cooler that will work, in such a small space. Chase power, you need a nice core and it wont fit there

[Drift Motorsport]

Sounds like a lot of dicking around + cash spent, for a f**k all gain.

Stock or alloy aftermarket radiator + FMIC = a reliable package that looks as good as it performs.

If you want better cooling - try ducting the radiator and intercooler with thick plastic sheets.

Alternatively, you can for a V-Mount or Predator style setup as pictured:

[DCIEVE]

As nice as it looks, isnt the above just going to heat your intercooler up to a nice 80odd degree's?

[R31Nismoid]

agreed.

considering its only got a thermo, and a small one at that... its going to be horrid with some of the worst heatsoak in traffic anyone could imagine.

The car would have to be a track car, with lots of speed, for that to work remotely well IMO.

My setup is very similar, except my rad/IC is much larger, there is a slightly bigger gap... and im still running the factory clutch fan.

All that comes in ~70 degrees driving, upto 74-75 in traffic at best on a 25 degree day

[GtstCoupe]

supra setup looks cool , very neat handa setup too, but it seams like there not a lot of surface area to drop temps?

[rodger1]

If it worked well having the smaller intercooler don't you think Nissan would be doing it? that's right they aren't because it isn't efficient. as we all know about car manufactures if they can build something cheaper that works the same they will