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the cops werent being nice over easter at all i got pulled over twice in the matter of 5 hours for them to try and get me done for some illegal mods i was laughing tho when they were giving my license back sounding annoyed that they cudnt do my for anything lol. the second time i got pulled over the driver cop comes to my window and asks for my licence and to pop the bonet while the passenger side cop walks up behind the car then around the front and then walks up the the cop at my window and goes its not turbo lol i was laughing in my head because from that point they were trying so hard to do me for somthing but they new they prob wouldnt cause it wasnt turbo. i was laughing so hard in my head thinking stupid f**king cops.

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yeah i was driving home last night from work @ about 10pm through preston and all down bell street - and i saw 3 police cars with sirens flashing pulling people over..

if thats true about the thing on sharpes road.. i wouldnt be to surprized actually after some of the things ive heard about the force as of late.. =/

Court is just a waste of time & money, its just his word against the coppas. The cop can just argue it was illegal then it was made legal for the test both times.

This was his exact reply when i told him to argue it.. he said what for, its a waste of my time gotta take a day off work to go to court for stupid fines.

R31Nismoid - We measured the car the next day to make sure, its 105mm off the ground at the lowest point and he was on his own in the car with very stiff suspension that has bugger all sag in it.

No its not

No its not

And not neccesarily

Do you know how the court system works? Because clearly it sounds like you do not.

Ive taken defects to court, and won, on more than one occasion. Im all for it, and i'll do it again if it happens.

If people started standing up to the illegitimate defecting, it would occur FAR less often OVERALL. Police would think twice before defecting something because people just 'accept' it.

It wastes Police time/money far more than your own (because if you win, your costs will be covered by what your lawyer submits). And im all for that too. They want to waste our time with rubbish EPA's, defects etc, then they can have a bit back in my book because if they wont police REAL crime - they can have thier time eaten up when they could otherwise be revenue raising

R31Nismoid,

You are a wealth of information. Can you tell us the circumstances surrounding your court appearances for defects? Not necessarily looking for exact details, but perhaps you could tell us what you were defected for, what the court said etc?

Might just help a few people out in similar circumstances.

Cheers mate.

In my opinion you lot need to grow the f**k up, You drive an illegal car, then so be it...

I have NEVER had issues with the police, I have never had issues in my Stagea obviously, But in my old Datsun 1600, which was I dare say more illegal than your average import, I never had issues... if TMU is around, I found if I let them through in traffic etc, you get a thumbs up, not pulled over...

Datto was low/loud, built motor, adjustable everything etc, gauges, seats, wheels... the exhaust was a bloody joke, all it did was take out the drone, i used to live 400m from the cop shop, and you could hear me from there alot of the time...

All too often on forums you get people whinging after doing the wrong thing, You speed/drag/"drift" on the street, expect to cop shit. Man up and take it on the chin.(obviously if you are in something 4WD height and they say its too low, fight it, but half the time it appears that they defect you instead of fining you for other things, I RARELY see imports indicate for example, pretty sure that is fine and points)

/end rant

R31Nismoid,

You are a wealth of information. Can you tell us the circumstances surrounding your court appearances for defects? Not necessarily looking for exact details, but perhaps you could tell us what you were defected for, what the court said etc?

Might just help a few people out in similar circumstances.

Cheers mate.

Rear number plate cannot be seen from a 45degree angle - defected.

Beat it on the fact that its totally legal, sup reg to the law the officer quoted, said exactly what i thought, if the car was factory like that then its OK

Driving in a manner dangerous

Driving 140 in a 80 zone

Reckless endangerment of life

-Beat all them as the cop was talking out his ass to put it plainly, his "key witness" didn't show to court twice. Furthermore the "key" witness didn't actually see anything by his own statement. Also the officer was not in full attire (no badges, labels, lapels, hats)... just blue shirt/pants. And he was apparently directing traffic while watching me do all the above. Which to add too it, was on the GOR around a blind corner. This was a old koot Lorne cop, been in the force 40 years and was probably due for retirement after he got the above so horridly wrong it wasnt funny.

Driving 110 in a 60 zone

-Had this down graded to 80 in a 60 zone. Officer had no gun, and only 300 meters with which to estimate my speed over. Mathematically the cops were wrong. Sad part is police are "recognised" estimators of speed, so very good lawyer required

There are others, I cant think of them at present. But challenge EVERYTHING. I take no shit, simple as that.

Rear number plate cannot be seen from a 45degree angle - defected.

Beat it on the fact that its totally legal, sup reg to the law the officer quoted, said exactly what i thought, if the car was factory like that then its OK

Driving in a manner dangerous

Driving 140 in a 80 zone

Reckless endangerment of life

-Beat all them as the cop was talking out his ass to put it plainly, his "key witness" didn't show to court twice. Furthermore the "key" witness didn't actually see anything by his own statement. Also the officer was not in full attire (no badges, labels, lapels, hats)... just blue shirt/pants. And he was apparently directing traffic while watching me do all the above. Which to add too it, was on the GOR around a blind corner. This was a old koot Lorne cop, been in the force 40 years and was probably due for retirement after he got the above so horridly wrong it wasnt funny.

Driving 110 in a 60 zone

-Had this down graded to 80 in a 60 zone. Officer had no gun, and only 300 meters with which to estimate my speed over. Mathematically the cops were wrong. Sad part is police are "recognised" estimators of speed, so very good lawyer required

There are others, I cant think of them at present. But challenge EVERYTHING. I take no shit, simple as that.

You also mentioned earlier about them having to pay costs, is that purely legal costs or in the case were you get defected for being too low can you also get money back for the cost of the rwc and time taken to clear it?

You also mentioned earlier about them having to pay costs, is that purely legal costs or in the case were you get defected for being too low can you also get money back for the cost of the rwc and time taken to clear it?

Just get your lawyer to factor it into his costs

Nice and easy

Although, if you argue it in court - you don't HAVE to get a RWC. That's the point, your disputing the defect itself and the need to attain a RWC

In my opinion you lot need to grow the f**k up, You drive an illegal car, then so be it...

I have NEVER had issues with the police, I have never had issues in my Stagea obviously, But in my old Datsun 1600, which was I dare say more illegal than your average import, I never had issues... if TMU is around, I found if I let them through in traffic etc, you get a thumbs up, not pulled over...

Datto was low/loud, built motor, adjustable everything etc, gauges, seats, wheels... the exhaust was a bloody joke, all it did was take out the drone, i used to live 400m from the cop shop, and you could hear me from there alot of the time...

All too often on forums you get people whinging after doing the wrong thing, You speed/drag/"drift" on the street, expect to cop shit. Man up and take it on the chin.(obviously if you are in something 4WD height and they say its too low, fight it, but half the time it appears that they defect you instead of fining you for other things, I RARELY see imports indicate for example, pretty sure that is fine and points)

/end rant

look mate i agree with you to an extent, but this whole grow the f**k up nonsense is not necessary.

i have no problems with an officer issuing a defect notice on a car, provided they go about it the correct manner and actually check over the car, not just issue a defect and a fine and put you through the headaches because they're having a shit day.

you say you have never had issues and i applaud you on that but some people arent so lucky.

This was his exact reply when i told him to argue it.. he said what for, its a waste of my time gotta take a day off work to go to court for stupid fines.

R31Nismoid - We measured the car the next day to make sure, its 105mm off the ground at the lowest point and he was on his own in the car with very stiff suspension that has bugger all sag in it.

You do realise it needs to be above legal height with people in the car? If you have 5 seats, it still needs to be above 100mm at the lowest point with 5 people sitting in them. Just throwing it out there as a reminder.

look mate i agree with you to an extent, but this whole grow the f**k up nonsense is not necessary.

i have no problems with an officer issuing a defect notice on a car, provided they go about it the correct manner and actually check over the car, not just issue a defect and a fine and put you through the headaches because they're having a shit day.

you say you have never had issues and i applaud you on that but some people arent so lucky.

fair enough, i ranted.

but seeing the amount of emo defect threads on here/NS is annoying, should make a sub-forum :P

fair enough, i ranted.

but seeing the amount of emo defect threads on here/NS is annoying, should make a sub-forum :blush:

Just the fact you would use SAU and NS in the one sentence denotes a life time of bitch slaps, every time you leave your house there should be someone there to bitch slap you, every time you think you need a drink BANG bitch slap, every time you think you should not have linked NS and SAU BANG bitch slap.

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Just the fact you would use SAU and NS in the one sentence denotes a life time of bitch slaps, every time you leave your house there should be someone there to bitch slap you, every time you think you need a drink BANG bitch slap, every time you think you should not have linked NS and SAU BANG bitch slap.

SAU is on its way... :blush:

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