Tuned R34 Vs Zr1

[rtune]

Could you tune an R34, without going rb30,

to give similar or better braking/handling/accelerative rush to a vette ZR1 ?

some stats on the ZR1:

curb weight: 1528kg

0-60mph: 3.3 seconds

quarter mile: 11.2 seconds and 130mph

hp at crank: 620

top speed: 205mph

carbon ceramic brakes, rear wheel drive of course..

ridiculous wide torque curve from 2000 rpm to 7000 rpm..

(I realize a drag r34 can out drag it, a top secret r34 could out top speed it,

and a track r32 could out handle it..)

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

A R34 GTR N1 factory stock ran a 1/4 mile in 12.1 from memory so it's not far off.

Tuning would need to done for sure tho, as in Performance, Suspension, Drivetrain and Weight Reduction would help.

You know the MCR R34 GTR... Yeah... As you started a thread about its gearbox not too long ago...

That beat MCR's stock R35 GTR on Tsukuba circuit...

The R35 GTR and Corvette ZR1 are about the similar level in performance...

So I would say yes tuned R34 GTR can similar or better performance to the ZR1.

But that's with any car... You got the money to tune your R34 GTR you can beat anything on a track.

[rtune]

I'd love a ride in the ZR1 after seeing it on top gear when they did that

trip to the salt flats.. the shove at any RPM was completely visible. His seat practically

bent 6 inches.. as clarkson said, ludicrous and unexpected ..

I have a feeling it is more ludicrous than a stock R35, and a tuned R34.

[eeiko321]

I'd love a ride in the ZR1 after seeing it on top gear when they did that

trip to the salt flats.. the shove at any RPM was completely visible. His seat practically

bent 6 inches.. as clarkson said, ludicrous and unexpected ..

I have a feeling it is more ludicrous than a stock R35, and a tuned R34.

yeah but its kinda different

from memory the GT-R R35 costs around around 70,000 or something

and the Zr1 costs double that...

its the ULTIMATE corvette if you think about it.

the GT-R that ran the Nurburgring was the base model....

nissan havent bought out the big guns yet...

in the near future spec-V will attend the ring... and god knows what else they have up thier sleeves..

in a way the ZR1 is practically a muscle car but nearly an exotic...

[rtune]

yeah but its kinda different

from memory the GT-R R35 costs around around 70,000 or something

and the Zr1 costs double that...

its the ULTIMATE corvette if you think about it.

the GT-R that ran the Nurburgring was the base model....

nissan havent bought out the big guns yet...

in the near future spec-V will attend the ring... and god knows what else they have up thier sleeves..

in a way the ZR1 is practically a muscle car but nearly an exotic...

well the zr1 base msrp is ~$110k however the R35 v-spec which appears to be barely quicker than the R35

is +$50k over the ZR1!

But yeah I get what you mean, the zr1 is an american exotic, for sure.

But the first v-spec R35 appears to be just price gouging.

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

yeah but its kinda different

from memory the GT-R R35 costs around around 70,000 or something

and the Zr1 costs double that...

its the ULTIMATE corvette if you think about it.

the GT-R that ran the Nurburgring was the base model....

nissan havent bought out the big guns yet...

in the near future spec-V will attend the ring... and god knows what else they have up thier sleeves..

in a way the ZR1 is practically a muscle car but nearly an exotic...

Nissan already did 7:27 on the N'Ring, so its 1 second off the ZR1.

A good weight reduction, more power and even better refined suspension and drivetrain set up.

[eeiko321]

Nissan already did 7:27 on the N'Ring, so its 1 second off the ZR1.

A good weight reduction, more power and even better refined suspension and drivetrain set up.

yeah but was the spec -v times official?

from memory it wasnt

well what i meant was, its still early... u never know, might be Nismo factory specials....or R-tune and Z-tune of the R35 to come in the near future...

then it will teach the Zr1 some manners

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

yeah but was the spec -v times official?

from memory it wasnt

well what i meant was, its still early... u never know, might be Nismo factory specials....or R-tune and Z-tune of the R35 to come in the near future...

then it will teach the Zr1 some manners

Base model Series II Nissan GT-R with a 7:27.56 lap.

The car was standard except for being fitted with optional Nismo ClubSport package Rays 20″ forged aluminium wheels.

Dunlop tires were fitted to the Rays wheels.

I found these links,

Have a read and see what you think.

- http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Ni...Re-t265820.html

- http://www.themotorreport.com.au/27529/200...at-nurburgring/

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nürburgring_lap_times

[eeiko321]

Base model Series II Nissan GT-R with a 7:27.56 lap.

The car was standard except for being fitted with optional Nismo ClubSport package Rays 20″ forged aluminium wheels.

Dunlop tires were fitted to the Rays wheels.

I found these links,

Have a read and see what you think.

- http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Ni...Re-t265820.html

- http://www.themotorreport.com.au/27529/200...at-nurburgring/

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nürburgring_lap_times

shit your right, its creeping up to the corvette ZR1

but still, you missed the point.....

apparently the Spec v is only 5hp more than the base model but putting it on the track there is a huge difference. not only the weight reduction but the braking as well.... i recall the article stated the Brakes on the Spec-v costed 50,000$ for replacement.... but they are designed to rarely wear out.

i read that in an article on this sites r35 forum.

if it is...then it really should shave some more time.... and this time instead of porsche crying..

corvette might have a winge

and why is Pagani zonda in there twice... they should scrap the Pagani lower times and keep the record times by that EVO Magazine

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

shit your right, its creeping up to the corvette ZR1

but still, you missed the point.....

apparently the Spec v is only 5hp more than the base model but putting it on the track there is a huge difference. not only the weight reduction but the braking as well.... i recall the article stated the Brakes on the Spec-v costed 50,000$ for replacement.... but they are designed to rarely wear out.

i read that in an article on this sites r35 forum.

if it is...then it really should shave some more time.... and this time instead of porsche crying..

corvette might have a winge

and why is Pagani zonda in there twice... they should scrap the Pagani lower times and keep the record times by that EVO Magazine

LOL!

Yes I see what you are saying about the Spec-V.

I was just letting you know a base model can achieve such a close time... Imagine what the Spec-V can do.

Spec-V Specifications

Carbon fiber rear spoiler, grille, and brake ducts.

Carbon fiber Recaro front seats with the rear seats being completely removed.

Carbon fiber covers the center storage box, instrument panel, and replaces the majority of the interior trim.

Overall weight is decreased by 132 lb (60 kg) over the standard GT-R.

That should help with light weighting the car.

The GT-R Spec-V is powered by the standard twin-turbo 3,799 cc (3.8 L; 231.8 cu in) V6 with no increase in (peak) horsepower, but a new high gear boost controller that temporarily increases boost pressure should deliver more torque in mid to high-range revs.

Other mechanical changes include a titanium exhaust, reworked suspension, carbon ceramic brakes, and 20-inch (510 mm) NISMO wheels.

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_GT-R

This should be easy to get to the ZR1 N-Ring time if not better.

[eeiko321]

This should be easy to get to the ZR1 N-Ring time if not better.

well if corvette doesnt have a winge... then definately muscle fans WILL!!!

i can guarantee this...especially in USA. (they really are, against japanese imports)

[jase-r34]

What about the R34 Z-tune? Has it been times around the N-ring? I thought they ran a pretty outrageous 1/4 time as well??

[eeiko321]

What about the R34 Z-tune? Has it been times around the N-ring? I thought they ran a pretty outrageous 1/4 time as well??

well there is a video of the R34 Z-tune at the nurburgring

but there is no official records..

something about the driver going airborne which didnt give it a good track time...

and that was it....never heard from that car again

apparently Spec-V nissan is confident that it will be 5 sec faster

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

well if corvette doesnt have a winge... then definately muscle fans WILL!!!

i can guarantee this...especially in USA. (they really are, against japanese imports)

Hah!

You tried talking on an American Car Forum?

I have, it's like talking to a brick wall.

They are too in love with there V8's and love kissing Euro ass.

[N1GTR]

Could you tune an R34, without going rb30,

to give similar or better braking/handling/accelerative rush to a vette ZR1 ?

some stats on the ZR1:

curb weight: 1528kg

0-60mph: 3.3 seconds

quarter mile: 11.2 seconds and 130mph

hp at crank: 620

top speed: 205mph

carbon ceramic brakes, rear wheel drive of course..

ridiculous wide torque curve from 2000 rpm to 7000 rpm..

(I realize a drag r34 can out drag it, a top secret r34 could out top speed it,

and a track r32 could out handle it..)

Not a problem.

Call Ben at Racepace, tell him you need one of his 2.93L RB26 strokers with the rest of his bolt on mods. Then a month later drop off an R34GTR.

From memory that car had about 600hp at the wheels, full interior, 150rwkw at 2000rpm and redline was quite high. Carbon brakes are doable, but not cheap.

Weight reduction is fairly straightforward aswel.

Wont be cheap though

[eeiko321]

Hah!

You tried talking on an American Car Forum?

I have, it's like talking to a brick wall.

They are too in love with there V8's and love kissing Euro ass.

nah i havent on the forum

but if you look those Supra videos hammering Corvettes, Mustangs, Camaros...

the comments section are full of them.

they really do get upset, about their cars being beat.

i know what you mean about brick wall.

im dont like muscle cars but i can accept them for what they are...

but to them......its like "nope.... jap..........its crap"