Carbon Fiber Cloth

[bones]

I'm interested in doing something like the following giude:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201689

Does anyone know where I can get some of the CF cloth around the Epping area?

Has anyone done this themselves? (Pic and tips please )

[Carbon 34]

I'm interested in doing something like the following giude:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201689

Does anyone know where I can get some of the CF cloth around the Epping area?

Has anyone done this themselves? (Pic and tips please )

just gluing carbon down? the heat in oz , it wont hold up very well

and threads will move or snag. and no pretreatment of plastic parts by sanding or opening up the plastic pores with primer, it wont last

but doing real fiber/epoxy will with UV stabilizers to stop clouding in sunlight(oxidizing like paint jobs only quicker)

Yes, Im doing a extensive list of carbon parts.

a complete carbon fiber boot interior/Ice install with carbon,lexan, fiberglass sub box

modified wing with carbon parts

GTR Vspec 2 style undertrays

front lip and front undertray

lower door panels and tweeter horns

all vents,and many dash parts cover in it. nearly done now

battery tray and cover

cams covers

timing covers

covering the strut bar

pod filter cover with snorkels

radiator shroud

air plate between bar and radiator to cover headlights and direct air

and last but not least, side skirts.....and a NACA bonnet scoop if its not defectable in adelaide to a vent steel bonnet, still checking on that one

some will be covered, some molded, and some original parts created

you can buy the carbon from www.fgi.com.au

but be prepared its really expensive and a simple process to make nice looking parts. it takes time to get the parts looking tops

carbon can run $90-110 per meter same weight/size fiberglass is less then $10

and resin , mold release, colour for resin if needed, wax in styrene ,etc cost a small fortune

near $500 in supplies just to build a sub box to fit under my rear deck for a 12"

photos will come in the next week or so , depending on weather (drying time) and time to complete

but looks so cool and lightweight.strong

Edited April 23, 2009 by sapphiregraphics

[bones]

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[bones]

Nice, that's a pretty extensive amount of carbon! I had not even considered half of the products you're customizing. It'll be awesome to see some pics of it. Thanks for the info, it does seem like quite an undertaking but the result seems worth it.

[GUN_METAL_GTR32]

f**ken jesus

i need to see pics of this carbon overhaul of ur car bro

[smok74]

The stuff is usually not available to the general public, but I can get as much of the carbon fabric as you need from my work. I work at a company that cooks resins which also owns a sub-company that distributes fibreglass materials, carbon fibre and even Kelvar (which Ive made knife-proof vests from), who supplies all the major companies involving with body kits, swimming pools and boats etc.

I assume you are intending to use the 'wet' method which is very similar to working with traditional fibreglass moulding etc. looking at the website you referred to, I have myself done this type of cosmetic upgrades and personally...

THIS GUY HAS ONLY HALF BAKED IT !!!! What you are meant to do after you 'glued' the fabric to the interior panels is to coat it with clear epoxy resin OR 2-pak clear with a light coat, let it cure, rub it back a bit with fine wet/dry paper like 1200-1800 grade to get rid of any ripples and impefections, then recoat it with a thinner flowcoat !! The trick is not to have any pockets of air trapped in between the coats.....That way, the end result will be like carbon bonnets etc etc.... nice n glossy !! I can also get the epoxy as well.

If youre gonna do this, might as well do it properly and make sure she doesnt bubble up and peel off after a few months.

Personally, Im about to do the roof of my R33 and / or even the doors, boot, the GTR wing, side skirts.... it's endless...

Im in the Blacktown area which is about 30 mins from where you are

Give me a yell if you are keen and we can work something out.....be warned, the fabric is sold by the linear meter and is NOT CHEAP. FOr about $90 - $100, you'll get about 2metres wide by 1metre.

[email protected]

Edited April 29, 2009 by smok74

[Jmaac]

how do you impregnate the resin properly without an autoclave?

[Mr. Keets]

vacuum bag

[smok74]

You guys are thinking of the 'dry' technique which is a lot more expensive also the carbon material is also prepared and handled slightly differently. My friend's brother in fact works for Benneton F1 team in the UK and he works in the Carbon fibre section that develops all the aerodynamics components for their cars, some of the stuff he gets into you do indeed need an aeronautical engineering degree to understand.....

The technique Im referring to is the 'wet' technique which is more for the cosmetic purposes..... a much cheaper alternative. Even the carbon fibre bonnets that a lot of us buy are in fact done using the wet technique ..... how do you tell ? Fibreglass shell with just one layer of carbon fabric on top for appearance..... The real stuff used in the 'dry' carbon is many layers of carbon fibre....NO FIBREGLASS !!

For the simple interior panels, the 'wet carbon' technique is sufficient. Just coat the dash panel using black gelcoat or clear epoxy as a 'glue' and lay the fabric on using a small paint roller to press the entire sheet down evenly, wait until it's cured, then carry on using the technique I mentioned above using 2-pac clear or epoxy resin. Youre not doing it for strength but rather for appearance !

[bones]

smok74 has the idea. PM sent.

I'm thinking of doing majority of my interior. Although I'm not to worried about the gloss finish - but I assume its there to hold the mold and protect the fibers..?

[bones]

Or not... Please pm me

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[smok74]

just gluing carbon down? the heat in oz , it wont hold up very well

and threads will move or snag. and no pretreatment of plastic parts by sanding or opening up the plastic pores with primer, it wont last

but doing real fiber/epoxy will with UV stabilizers to stop clouding in sunlight(oxidizing like paint jobs only quicker)

Yes, Im doing a extensive list of carbon parts.

a complete carbon fiber boot interior/Ice install with carbon,lexan, fiberglass sub box

modified wing with carbon parts

GTR Vspec 2 style undertrays

front lip and front undertray

lower door panels and tweeter horns

all vents,and many dash parts cover in it. nearly done now

battery tray and cover

cams covers

timing covers

covering the strut bar

pod filter cover with snorkels

radiator shroud

air plate between bar and radiator to cover headlights and direct air

and last but not least, side skirts.....and a NACA bonnet scoop if its not defectable in adelaide to a vent steel bonnet, still checking on that one

some will be covered, some molded, and some original parts created

you can buy the carbon from www.fgi.com.au

but be prepared its really expensive and a simple process to make nice looking parts. it takes time to get the parts looking tops

carbon can run $90-110 per meter same weight/size fiberglass is less then $10

and resin , mold release, colour for resin if needed, wax in styrene ,etc cost a small fortune

near $500 in supplies just to build a sub box to fit under my rear deck for a 12"

photos will come in the next week or so , depending on weather (drying time) and time to complete

but looks so cool and lightweight.strong

Well isnt it fortunate I work at Valspar (the makers of HOUSE OF KOLOR in the USA) here in Australia and we also own 'FMS' - Fibreglass Materials Services - that supply 70% of the resins/epoxys/gelcoat market here in Oz...... lol What do you need ?

Edited April 29, 2009 by smok74

[PLYNX]

"Well isnt it fortunate I work at Valspar (the makers of HOUSE OF KOLOR in the USA) here in Australia and we also own 'FMS' - Fibreglass Materials Services - that supply 70% of the resins/epoxys/gelcoat market here in Oz...... lol What do you need ?"

Bahahahaha !

Shameless name droping that ! !

[Carbon 34]

Well isnt it fortunate I work at Valspar (the makers of HOUSE OF KOLOR in the USA) here in Australia and we also own 'FMS' - Fibreglass Materials Services - that supply 70% of the resins/epoxys/gelcoat market here in Oz...... lol What do you need ?

lol , mate I need more of everything, and have ABN as the car is heading for promo/show duties in the future

shoot me a pm with your details please

I'm doing overlays, raw parts and molding new parts people, wet and dry, 100% real carbon, kevlar backed lower lip, arramid glass heat shields, and on some parts fiberglass on one side of composite foam construction, carbon fiber outer.

carbon fiber can ring (high freq. resonate) at high SPL so the innner parts of the sub box are lined in foam core and fiberglass weave, colour dyed epoxy, nearly 25mm thick but stronger then a surfboard.

you dont need a vacuum bag if you do it right, wax on styrene ,extreme care and a heat gun.

more goodies today.lol

4 gauges for audio setup to need a carbon /alloy faceplate for roof mount and relocate sunroof switches in new facia

2 output milli-volts from head unit to amps

1 temp gauge for amps

1 volt gauge for car

all dash lights converted to blue led last week, and these gauges and greddy boost gauge to match

no photos yet, excessive rain and a house roof leak delay..lol

Edited April 30, 2009 by sapphiregraphics

[evl38u]

I'm interested in doing something like the following giude:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201689

Does anyone know where I can get some of the CF cloth around the Epping area?

Has anyone done this themselves? (Pic and tips please )

I had a look for it too you can buy from here

http://justjdm.com.au/jdmevo/index.php?cPa...ee01c527b0574c6

or here

CF fabric

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...E:X:AAQ:AU:1123

Edited June 5, 2009 by evl38u

[INVRTD]

troy, can you post up some pics of your cf work

[cobrAA]

Instead of using Resin and make sure there's no bubble etc etc.

Could I just spray 2-3 layer of clear coat on my carbon fiber center console?

Thanks!

Edited June 29, 2009 by cobrAA

[thrtytwo]

Instead of using Resin and make sure there's no bubble etc etc.

Could I just spray 2-3 layer of clear coat on my carbon fiber center console?

Thanks!

i hope u mean its already carbon fiber, just dull instead of shiny, if so then sure go ahead, if you mean use a can of clear to form/bond the carbon fiber fabric...then lol@u

[boz_soljah]

this is sikkkk, im gona do this to most of my interior,, niceee, hope all goes well

[SABBAi]

Just so you guys are aware, the link posted by bones does not show real cf. Those of you who have worked with it will recognise this by the pics in that link. There is no way you can cut such a straight smooth edge and work it around a complex shape and have it hold it's form.

Pulled off the linked thread

Then you get your carbon sheets that they sell very cheap these days,

Its a carbon fiber fabric, and imitates the look of the BMW "Carbon Leather" trim I have in my M and can be optioned in most new BMW M cars,

Here is the 'carbon fibre fabric' for sale on ebay