Greedy, Plazmaman, Hks, Cooling-pro Etc Need Cooler Asap

[myRB25DETT]

hi guys...

i need some advice from ppl who knows most about intercoolers, i needed to get one ASAP as i cant boost my car unless i have a bigger FMIC on my R34 GTT..

Greedy, plazmaman, HKS, Nismo, etc. whats the best one to get and easiest to install??

im not goin to run my car over 260 rwkw... so intercoolers that can handle between 250-260 rwkw would be fine..

and whats the difference between Bar and Plate or Tube and Fin? which is better??

my budget is around $600-700 for full intercooler kit with pipes including...

any advice???

thanx guys...

any shop from melbourne where i can check some intercoolers??

[bombtrack]

I'm running a HDi (Hybrid) intercooler which will handle more power than I am going to throw at it. I reckon they're in your price range. I've had no problems at all, but there's not much that go wrong anyway.

I can't remember if the stock IC handles 250kw or not, but I think it should take your power levels. It will deal with a bit more boost on the stock turbo no worries at least. FMIC's look good so why not do it anyway ey. They are defectable when used with a POD or if the IC piping is cored through a structural section of body work though.

I believe that bar and plate intercoolers have lower pressure drop when compared to tube and fin of the same specs. Tube and fin intercoolers overcome this by adding more rows and/or increasing the row size. I think generally tube and fin come out on top because they flow better inside and out when they increase the specs. I am not 100% sure about this but that's my understanding.

[_Ryan_]

700, trust kit, access autoworks, trade place vermont, sponser on here

[myRB25DETT]

I'm running a HDi (Hybrid) intercooler which will handle more power than I am going to throw at it. I reckon they're in your price range. I've had no problems at all, but there's not much that go wrong anyway.

I can't remember if the stock IC handles 250kw or not, but I think it should take your power levels. It will deal with a bit more boost on the stock turbo no worries at least. FMIC's look good so why not do it anyway ey. They are defectable when used with a POD or if the IC piping is cored through a structural section of body work though.

I believe that bar and plate intercoolers have lower pressure drop when compared to tube and fin of the same specs. Tube and fin intercoolers overcome this by adding more rows and/or increasing the row size. I think generally tube and fin come out on top because they flow better inside and out when they increase the specs. I am not 100% sure about this but that's my understanding.

"I'm running a HDi (Hybrid) intercooler which will handle more power than I am going to throw at it." <--- Hybrid intercooler apparently are a lot harder to find, i read in some forums..and a lot of hybrid fakes claiming as well..so how would i knw which one is legit??

"I can't remember if the stock IC handles 250kw or not, but I think it should take your power levels." <--- stock SMIC apparently not safe to do, after a 2-3 rounds of full dyno and upping the boost the pipes and IC itself will go red hot and will cause a lot of problem, thats why i have to change my stockies coz originally i wanted to leave the stock smic and boost my car up with my new Greedy Profec B-spec II EBC...

They are defectable when used with a POD or if the IC piping is cored through a structural section of body work though. <---i know, i have POD at the moment, the only reason why i went POD like is bcoz i thought i didnt have to change my stock IC, but i didnt know i have to change it once i start upping the boost...but i will just have to find a way now how to get away with it..ive spoken to a tuner who can help me with the POD thingy issue...

[myRB25DETT]

700, trust kit, access autoworks, trade place vermont, sponser on here

thanx ryan,

i know access autoworks...i went there and got my STRI boost gauge and my Greedy Profec b-spec II..

i dont think they sell $700 trust kit for R34 GTT as i checked it on their website...

pic below is Greddy Trust Spec R HG Intercooler GTT R34 Skyline

Price: $2,400.00

Edited April 24, 2009 by myRB25DETT

[ujin]

i m still usin a stock intercooler on my r32gtr, have a hks r-type along the way. cuttently, i m pullin 320Kw on 1.8bar boost. no probs. for the pod issue, just custom a box arnd it. or go arc if yur feelin rich! haha

Edited April 24, 2009 by ujin

[paulr33]

youll find pretty much any is fine

GTR

hybrid

chinese brander

or jap brand

all just depends on price. your best bet is to goto a local workshop in your area and ask for a price for a FMIC supplied and fitted

i have no idea where you live so ill pick some workshops around melbourne

eas

dr drift

chasers

race pace

re customs

any of those should be able to supply and fit a decent FMIC for a decent price

and the core etc will be fine for your power levels

[myRB25DETT]

i m still usin a stock intercooler on my r32gtr, have a hks r-type along the way. cuttently, i m pullin 320Kw on 1.8bar boost. no probs. for the pod issue, just custom a box arnd it. or go arc if yur feelin rich! haha

ujin, i think all skyline GTR's IC are more superior compare to GTsT's and GTT's...and yeh i do have a custom pod box around my pod...

[myRB25DETT]

hi paul....

i already went and asked those shops for intercoolers..but i think they are a bit pricey..but will keep looking around..

thanx though..

[JezzaR33]

I Just got quoted 750 delivered for a Trust LS Spec FMIC from Access Autoworks... They are the M-spec replacement. Should be fine for the power your putting out. Just a thought is all

[_Ryan_]

thanx ryan,

i know access autoworks...i went there and got my STRI boost gauge and my Greedy Profec b-spec II..

i dont think they sell $700 trust kit for R34 GTT as i checked it on their website...

pic below is Greddy Trust Spec R HG Intercooler GTT R34 Skyline

Price: $2,400.00

check the sponser section on here, they used to be less, but exchange rate sucks http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Gr...le-t231161.html

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

hi guys...

i need some advice from ppl who knows most about intercoolers, i needed to get one ASAP as i cant boost my car unless i have a bigger FMIC on my R34 GTT..

Greedy, plazmaman, HKS, Nismo, etc. whats the best one to get and easiest to install??

im not goin to run my car over 260 rwkw... so intercoolers that can handle between 250-260 rwkw would be fine..

and whats the difference between Bar and Plate or Tube and Fin? which is better??

my budget is around $600-700 for full intercooler kit with pipes including...

any advice???

thanx guys...

any shop from melbourne where i can check some intercoolers??

How much boost you want to run?

You have a R34 GTT, the Side Mount Intercooler should be fine for just over 200 kW's.

As for Bar and Plate or Tube and Fin, I can't remember exactly but I read in one of my magazines that one is better for air flow and the other is better for cooling.

For example, air flow would be great for drag racing as you are only on the track for less than 10 (give or take a few seconds) on the track, while the intercooler for cooling would be better off for circuit, drift and rally racing as you are on the track for longer.

That's just off the top of my head from memory...

[myRB25DETT]

How much boost you want to run?

You have a R34 GTT, the Side Mount Intercooler should be fine for just over 200 kW's.

As for Bar and Plate or Tube and Fin, I can't remember exactly but I read in one of my magazines that one is better for air flow and the other is better for cooling.

For example, air flow would be great for drag racing as you are only on the track for less than 10 (give or take a few seconds) on the track, while the intercooler for cooling would be better off for circuit, drift and rally racing as you are on the track for longer.

That's just off the top of my head from memory...

hi skyline, i only wanted to run 11 psi high boost...i have another topic at FORCED INDUCTION its inregards to stock SMIC handling a boost 11 psi...maybe you can shade some lights off for me..i didnt want to have 2 topics here as well..please check it out for me..

thanx

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

How much boost you want to run?

You have a R34 GTT, the Side Mount Intercooler should be fine for just over 200 kW's.

As for Bar and Plate or Tube and Fin, I can't remember exactly but I read in one of my magazines that one is better for air flow and the other is better for cooling.

For example, air flow would be great for drag racing as you are only on the track for less than 10 (give or take a few seconds) on the track, while the intercooler for cooling would be better off for circuit, drift and rally racing as you are on the track for longer.

That's just off the top of my head from memory...

hi skyline, i only wanted to run 11 psi high boost...i have another topic at FORCED INDUCTION its inregards to stock SMIC handling a boost 11 psi...maybe you can shade some lights off for me..i didnt want to have 2 topics here as well..please check it out for me..

thanx

Yeah so you want to run 11 Psi (+0.7 Bar) which is what a GTR would run...

From memory GTS-T's / GTT's run about 7 Psi (+0.5 Bar)

Correct me if I am wrong...

You should be fine with your Standard SMIC, as that's what ppl with R32 and R33 GTS-T's can use (the R34 GTT) to upgrade to to run just over 200 kW's.

Best to get your Boost controller installed, at the same time run a dyno tune just to make sure.

RE Customs and Racepace (just to name a few garages) can do it for you.

[Jap_Muscle]

Yeah so you want to run 11 Psi (+0.7 Bar) which is what a GTR would run...

From memory GTS-T's / GTT's run about 7 Psi (+0.5 Bar)

Correct me if I am wrong...

You should be fine with your Standard SMIC, as that's what ppl with R32 and R33 GTS-T's can use (the R34 GTT) to upgrade to to run just over 200 kW's.

Best to get your Boost controller installed, at the same time run a dyno tune just to make sure.

RE Customs and Racepace (just to name a few garages) can do it for you.

youll be talking about aftermarket ECUs by that stage and as a safe bet id still get a FMIC. although its getting pretty cold these days so maybe you wont have a problem.

i went with a home brand intercooler which set me back 435bux (far out the good days wen the aussie $$$ was doing good) and now i regret it. im aiming for 300+ onwards and i wish i went with a proper made jap cooler. just the quality and efficiency allround is better.

you also need to make a decision on weather you wanna risk a defect. because if you dont youll need a return flow cooler. which narrows your choicees down even more.

youll also need to motify the front bar to fit any sort of FMIC unless you get a aftermarket bar.

ultimately it comes down to a few things, answer these quesitons and we can give you almost a spot on answer.

Budget (how much do you want to spend on a cooler)

ultimate Power Aim? (try to think if youll go after market turbo)

Willing to Risk Defects?

GL mate.......i remember when i 1st started with my skyline....haha the good days.....

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

youll be talking about aftermarket ECUs by that stage and as a safe bet id still get a FMIC. although its getting pretty cold these days so maybe you wont have a problem.

i went with a home brand intercooler which set me back 435bux (far out the good days wen the aussie $$$ was doing good) and now i regret it. im aiming for 300+ onwards and i wish i went with a proper made jap cooler. just the quality and efficiency allround is better.

you also need to make a decision on weather you wanna risk a defect. because if you dont youll need a return flow cooler. which narrows your choicees down even more.

youll also need to motify the front bar to fit any sort of FMIC unless you get a aftermarket bar.

ultimately it comes down to a few things, answer these quesitons and we can give you almost a spot on answer.

Budget (how much do you want to spend on a cooler)

ultimate Power Aim? (try to think if youll go after market turbo)

Willing to Risk Defects?

GL mate.......i remember when i 1st started with my skyline....haha the good days.....

Yeah sure.

So what's the limit for the SMIC before upgrading to FMIC on a R34 GTT?

As he does not want to go over 260 kW's...

He still can go FMIC but no intake mods... (Upgrade the panel filter inside the stock air box and he could get away with that...)

His budget is around $600 - $700, I would say that could buy you a very good intercooler.

Maybe upgrading to a GTR FMIC would help as they are good for over 300 kW's...

[adznight]

ARC - Best kits full stop if you can afford it.

[myRB25DETT]

youll be talking about aftermarket ECUs by that stage and as a safe bet id still get a FMIC. although its getting pretty cold these days so maybe you wont have a problem.

i went with a home brand intercooler which set me back 435bux (far out the good days wen the aussie $$ was doing good) and now i regret it. im aiming for 300+ onwards and i wish i went with a proper made jap cooler. just the quality and efficiency allround is better.

you also need to make a decision on weather you wanna risk a defect. because if you dont youll need a return flow cooler. which narrows your choicees down even more.

youll also need to motify the front bar to fit any sort of FMIC unless you get a aftermarket bar.

ultimately it comes down to a few things, answer these quesitons and we can give you almost a spot on answer.

Budget (how much do you want to spend on a cooler)

ultimate Power Aim? (try to think if youll go after market turbo)

Willing to Risk Defects?

GL mate.......i remember when i 1st started with my skyline....haha the good days.....

1.Budget (how much do you want to spend on a cooler) <--cooler $600-700 but have to be a good brand as well..

2.ultimate Power Aim? (try to think if youll go after market turbo) <--not considering getting an aftermarket turbo yet so would not go beyond 200 rwkw..not planning to upgrade turbos, not in a few yrs...its just a daily car for me for now...

3.Willing to Risk Defects? <--only if i have to change my SMIC..yes i would if given no choice...