EPA: is this true?

[Raver_Ace]

I got pulled over the other day, police said pop the bonnet, so i did. They told me they were gonna send out an EPA request or whatever to my house.

I have a HKS Air Pod filter, and a 3" Cat back zorst.

They told me the the filter has to be covered, not allowed to be in the enginebay uncovered. The police dude had a soarer TT btw.

Is this true? do i have to make a CAI partition to pass the EPA?

Cheers.

[inark]

pretty much... my gf has one in her soarer and we have to take her car to Mcleod to be tested....

a) the exhaust is WAY to big and loud

B) she has a HKS Pod filter which is uncovered

only 2 mods she has and both she will get done for... hopefully they will give her time to get them changed tho.

[inark]

sorry.. the reason for it is that the pods are oil based so they are a potential fire hazard or something.

[Raver_Ace]

Cool thanks for that, i might make a CAI partition on the weekend ...

With the HKS POD, i have never oiled it, should i? and what oil do i get to do it?

[KamikazeR33]

i believe that paper element pods are legal as long at they are properly attached to some part of the body

that is ur 1 intake modifacation, unless u have other stuff

[predator]

where is this ****ing uncovered pod shit the cops are making up these days??

where is the ****ing rule on paper, or on a site.. I'd like to see it.

some pods are oiled type, some are not.. oiled types are illegal coz of the fire hazard crap.

[Guest RedLineGTR]

the hks pods when new have a fine coating of oil on them not like the K&N ones but some factory oil when u buy new foam for them.

[Guest INASNT]

if u get the epa letter to go to mcleod, then just put the stock air box on the car and but it back to stock, do the easy test pass and then put everything back on. Thats what i did! *** the cops

[adznight]

Originally posted by predator666

some pods are oiled type, some are not.. oiled types are illegal coz of the fire hazard crap.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the majority of the sh*t under the bonnet a fire hazard? P/S Fluid, Fuel, Oil etc. etc. Stupid rule. I've seen more P/S fluid fires than pod's!

[predator]

I know, but that is apparently the reason. You're right though, anything can potentially be a fire hazard.

Cops need to relax, and laws need to be changed. Its not as if we're sending buckets of pollution into the atmosphere. Put 10 skylines together and i bet they put out combined pollution less than you're average Semi out there.

Its not as if big rims are going to make you spin out of control and crash.

Its not as if a boost controller is going to make your car explode, just make it go faster.

Its not as if a rear wing is going to fly off and kill somebody.. you'd have to be going pretty damn fast and it would have to be attached with sticky tape or something (although that ....).

Its not as if being too low means you're going to any less hurt somebody if you run them over.

Its not as if a loud exhaust is going to deafen somebody, or even put out any more noise than your average motorbike out there.

Its all a bit ridiculous, but thats the law for you sometimes.

[adznight]

Yup!

[vjsam]

big rims might rub against the arches if done incorrectly.

being too low might scrape over a hump and rupture an exhaust or worse, etc..

exhaust noise - well noise pollution. just because the harleys do it doesn't mean it's legal.

boost controller i dunno. maybe the ones you can change from the inside are not such a good idea. i mean if your friend is looking at the controller and presses a button and it increases the boost or something that could be dangerous.

granted they cant police everything (eg. making sure no loose objects exist in the car) - they can minimise the risk. unfortunately they have to consider the lowest common denominator and factor them into it as well.

i mean - how many cars have you seen are driven by the younger gen are actually roadworthy. one only has to see chapel st to see the epa and other defecting cars.

i guess it hurts the people that mod cars responsibly but that's the price we pay for some lunatics out there...

[predator]

big rims might rub against the arches if done incorrectly.

And who is that going to effect YOU, and your tyres.

exhaust noise - well noise pollution. just because the harleys do it doesn't mean it's legal.

In some areas, sure, but not everywhere. Then again - you ever heard you average road bike these days screaming its head off. Its louder than any car exhaust i have seen, and you can hear it from 100's of metres away.

boost controller i dunno. maybe the ones you can change from the inside are not such a good idea. i mean if your friend is looking at the controller and presses a button and it increases the boost or something that could be dangerous.

Thats stretching it a bit. By the same logic your mate could suddenly crank your stereo, deafen you and shock you so you crash. Just like the boost thingo - tell me you can "accidentally" up the boost. Even if that was a reason, there could just be guidelines on where they could be mounted, etc. The only thing is that its possibly increasing your car beyond its factory specifications - again, your problem more than anybody elses out there.

[i mean - how many cars have you seen are driven by the younger gen are actually roadworthy. one only has to see chapel st to see the epa and other defecting cars.

Yer, but its the only thing they can do to prevent certain sorts of people going down there other than saying "oh if you're 18 and an idiot you're banned from that area". Of course in a "free" society that is not possible.

And what about every other rust bucket out there driven around every day ( - of course i wouldn't know what that is about). Tell me they are any more safe in unroadworthy condition than a new vehicle with increased crash protection, etc. that is slightly low or some crap.

There are just too many "ifs", "maybes" and "it could"...very few facts around any of them. People kill themselves no matter what you do..

[Guest INASNT]

well said pred, most of the so called ifs are total crap.

[vjsam]

if the tyre gets punctured that's not good not only for urself but can be for others...

bikes rev higher (13K rpm) - engines are more exposed - less mufflers - safety wise too it's good to be loud (but not too loud!) to let others know...

cops don't only defect imports - they DO defect unroadworthy cars - well the good cops do - and dont get me wrong - they are at a higher risk than us import boys... (and girls) - cant you dob in people with smoke out their exhaust??

the laws can be quite a-n-a-l but that's the way it is. if you don't agree with them or cant face the consequences if you get caught then dont get an import - get a commonwhore.

[Guest INASNT]

cops don't only defect imports - they DO defect unroadworthy cars - well the good cops do

yet to see an old rust bucket that spills out blue/black smoke being defected as yet, or come across a good cop.

the laws can be quite a-n-a-l but that's the way it is. if you don't agree with them or cant face the consequences if you get caught then dont get an import - get a commonwhore.

y let some cops dicktate what car you can drive??

[predator]

cops don't only defect imports - they DO defect unroadworthy cars - well the good cops do - and dont get me wrong - they are at a higher risk than us import boys... (and girls) - cant you dob in people with smoke out their exhaust??  

the laws can be quite a-n-a-l but that's the way it is. if you don't agree with them or cant face the consequences if you get caught then dont get an import - get a commonwhore.

Um, no they don't... speaking from experience and the last couple of months, um, no they don't. "Oh thats unroadworthy, you better get that looked at - on your way mate".

Most of these laws were drafted up in the 70's and 80's, and actually have little relevence to the cars of many cars today..

Ha, i bet you a commondoor puts out more pollution than any Japanese car, already already pushing 10 year old antiquated technology and try and sell it to the Australian public. Fark, we didn't even sign the Keoto treaty, because Australia has one of the worst pollution per capita of any western country. Tell me we give a crap about air pollution when it comes to the heart of the matter. Its nothing to do with that.

Anyhow, i always crap on about this sorta stuff and beat the dead horse - but you know why, because it makes me angry. And so many people being all passive about it makes me angry too.. its the aussie lazy ethos "if it doesn't effect me i don't care".

Considering the amount of resources dedicated to pulling cars off the road or getting money of motorists compared to the effort and time spent to other major problems in our society such as drug abuse and major killers like suicide (which kills many many more people than on our roads and is growing), the Government needs to pull their head out of their ass.

[inark]

yeah u do always crap on about this stuff dont u

ps. ive seen heaps of rusty/shitty non imports pulled over and defected. One was a 50yo lady in an old skool camira with about 2kgs of steel and 1000kgs of bog and rust lol

[inark]

either way arguing or getting argo over it aint going to do much at all... all we can really do apart from WAH is grin and bare it or buy a 35 GTR when it comes out... which i cant see many of us on here doing