New Silvia on the horizon...

[Rezz]

Guys, details are a bit scarce, but a Nissan (*Nissan Japan* I might add, none of this Nissan USA bollocks) insider leaked to Horide Auto Mag that a new Silvia is on it`s way, but don`t expect any prototypes or anything until 2006. They also mentioned the powerplant, a QR20VET, with all the emmissions gear, to keep the new Silvia in line with it`s predecessors.

No hint of a chassis yet, but the FR configuration is a definate...

But OMG, it (the CG image) looks just like the Fairlady Z!!! I mean... 350Z!!! Not another one...

At this point, I`d like to give a big "thank you" smack to the back of the head of Carlos Gohsn, for f*cking up the momentum and key design of yet another of Nissans legendary sports cars...

I`ll have pics posted up on Mon/Tue.

/Rezz

[pentae]

Yeah I have mixed emotions about Carlos.

He DID put Nissan into profitability.. but I still feel the most AWESOME cars Nissan released where definately the 89-94 series of cars.. the Original S13's, R32's, 300ZX's..

Let's face it guys, the 180SX, the R32 GTR, the 300ZX twin turbo.. and lets not forget, my car.. the Silvia K's, (the original silvia) the quiet legend.

There where some very very clever people working for Nissan who did the R&D, and mechanical work for these production lines.

The rest have been tamed and commercialised IMO. Not that theres anything wrong with that.. but these cars just seem very

'raw' in comparison to the newer models. I like that. I truly think these cars will be Classics like the old Monaro's and sh*t.

Rezz: can you show us the CG pics?

[hippy]

i think its ok .. everything kinda grows on you after a while ...

[AeroGrace]

QR20VET??

I'm guessing that'll be an inline engine?

[pentae]

yeah.. what the hell is a QR20VET?

It sounds like a turbo variation of the X-trail engine..

[hippy]

they can't use a SR cause all new cars have to meet emmission laws .. and the SR doesn't ... so its a new engine ... same reason for the new engines in skylines and gtrs ... same reason why there will be so many new models of cars coming out ...

[AeroGrace]

well of cos the SR will be long retired by the time the S16 designs get drawn up....just curious becos of the engine codes....

QR=Engine designation?

20=I'm guessing capacity of 2L

VET= here's where i'm confused...don't Nissan normally have a 'D' somewhere to denote dual cams? What does 'V' mean? A V-series engine?

[omp]

V i think in nissan terms is "variable" as in timing

[Rezz]

QR = New engine model designation... nothing to do with "SR".

20 = Thats right AeroGrace, 2.0L... hold the OJ and Milk...

VET = Right again omp, Variable cam timing EFI (duh!) Turbo... it`s gonna have Direct Injection too.

Like I say, pics on Mon/Tue.

[AeroGrace]

Most of the later model engines have some form of variable timing in them(Later SR20s/RB25s) but i don't think Nissan has a habit of putting that into the engine's code designation....

[Rezz]

Originally posted by AeroGrace

Most of the later model engines have some form of variable timing in them(Later SR20s/RB25s) but i don't think Nissan has a habit of putting that into the engine's code designation....

The engine in the current X-Trail 2.0GT is an SR20VET, so Nissan DOES have a habit of putting "V" in the engines code designation...

...skooled ya! j/k

[red17]

Variable valve timing on SR20's and RB25's is much different to Variable valve timing AND LIFT found in "V" desingated motors. Variable LIFT can only be done with a change of cam lobe (like vtec). This is whatthe "V" stands for, its called NEO-VVL. And is dare i say it, bloody good.

See if you can find some info on the Nissan Pulsar VZR-N1 from a couple of years ago, it featured a 198bhp SR16VE... thats right, 200 neddies from 1.6 litres with no turbo. Made just to kick the Civic Type R's butt in the jap touring car classes.

For many a year it was said VVL systems and turbo's were a no go together, but i believe the SR20VET is the first production turbo car with the system. Could be wrong.

Good on Nissan for bringing back the Silvia, their car range was looking a bit of a travesty when youve got a 2 litre turbo off roader and no middle weight sports car to speak of.

Red17

[AeroGrace]

haha...i got owned.....

actually i should have said "out of the performance engines I that i know of...."

well i learned something 2day......

[AeroGrace]

Originally posted by red17

This is whatthe "V" stands for, its called NEO-VVL. And is dare i say it, bloody good.

is that the same 'Neo' thingy in the R34's RB25 engines?

OT: Here's a vid of the Pulsar VZR N1 ver. II vs. Civic Type R and Spoon Type R - (Watch the Civic get whooped)

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http://www.pulsar.org.au/multimedia/VZRvTYPER.avi

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[floody]

The V engines wouldn't be a nissan version of something along the lines of an "FE" toyota engine, by any chance, of course with the VVL?

I basically mean a narrow angle valve placement, narrow cylinder head, with one primarily driven cam and one driven indirectly via a gear on the primary driven cam?

or am I on the wrong track?

[red17]

Im not sure about the technical aspects of it, but im pretty sure its been described as very similar to VTEC in most aspects. Never heard it being compared to toyota's system.

Red17

[Rezz]

Originally posted by floody

The V engines wouldn't be a nissan version of something along the lines of an "FE" toyota engine, by any chance, of course with the VVL?

I basically mean a narrow angle valve placement, narrow cylinder head, with one primarily driven cam and one driven indirectly via a gear on the primary driven cam?

or am I on the wrong track?

No floody I think your right on the money... although some enthusiasts might cringe at the idea of a narrow angle cam placement, effectively a "One and a half" cam instead of a true twin cam (well, you know what I mean, the airflow through the narrow angle heads is hardly "performance" style), but the QR20VET might be getting direct injection... so the VVL, the Direct Injection and Turbo combo sounds good:)

[hippy]

whats direct injection?? as opposed to non direct injection??

[Rezz]

Direct Injection is where the injectors are positioned so that they spay directly into the piston bore, as opposed to being positioned in the intake runners.

Up until recently, Direct Injection was only used in low power applications, the most common (in Japan) being the Mitsubishi Galant GDI. As you can imagine, extremely precise air/fuel contol is possible with this, creating better fuel economy and much less emmissions.

But now, Direct Injection and Turbo is the key to High-power/Low-emmissions... and Nissan is at the forefront as usual...

[dangerous_daveo]

Id just like to point out silvias have been around for YEARS, such as 60s I think, I know this, cause I have seen a few. And personnally I feel they are one of the nicest looking cars nissan have ever built.