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I was done speeding 36 over the limit and only got a month...then half way into that month i got done driving while suspended (by the same cop) and had to go to

court, i was giving an extra 2 months on my suspension and a $700 find...i thought the suspension time i got good on, ut the fine was a bit steep...and i had just payed my lawyer $750...ah well, ive lernt now i guess...i driv slower and shit myself wen i see cops, lol

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llama_au Grand Master

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Yes, speed limits have also been designed with the worst drivers in mind, but I was always taught they covered adverse conditions too. I mean, if they didn't, then the law is effectively giving a driver permission to drive faster than is safe to do so...when we aren't allowed to do this in perfect conditions. I think you'll find that driving a car in roadworthy condition (somewhat subjective), you will be able to safely (also subjective) do the speed limit on any road in any condition unless the road has been poorly marked. The law has to account for the fact that not everyone uses common sense when driving, so not everyone is going to slow down in the wet.

Be interesting to find out exactly what criteria is used to obtain a speed limit.

That is a very dangerous and uninformed statement. The speed limit is there to state what is safe to do in ideal conditions, not what speed to do in extreme conditions.

The Great Ocean Road for example has a 100kmp/h sign on some corners that most people would struggle to do more than 40kmp/h around. Is it safe to do 100kmp/h around that corner because a sign says that you can? Hell f*cking no.

Please use a bit more common sense.

rh1n0 Enthusiast

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The Great Ocean Road for example has a 100kmp/h sign on some corners that most people would struggle to do more than 40kmp/h around. Is it safe to do 100kmp/h around that corner because a sign says that you can? Hell f*cking no.

Please use a bit more common sense.

While the speed limit might be 100 for those types of roads in some areas, there are also heaps of signs that advise which speed to do for the type of corner coming up. Anyone that completely ignores those deserve what they get. In some places there are also signs that state slippery when wet, slippery when icy (or whatever) etc.

I'm pretty certain that everyone here appreciates the signs that tell them the suggested speed and what type of corner is coming up so I don't think it's fair of you to say "use a bit more common sense".

End of the day, ideally, all drivers should know their car's limits and the conditions that they are driving in and drive to accommodate for that. A good example for most of you here is speed humps, they might say 20km/h but for some of you that would cause you to hit your head. :D

ras1983 Experienced

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I've seen some roads around the Barwon Heads/PointLonsdale/Queenscliffe area that were posted around 80kph which should probably be posted as 60kph at the most. I'm not sure how the speed limits are set, but clearly there are some speed limits which make you wonder about the government and the authorities in charge of our roads.

Birds Grand Master

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That is a very dangerous and uninformed statement. The speed limit is there to state what is safe to do in ideal conditions, not what speed to do in extreme conditions.

The Great Ocean Road for example has a 100kmp/h sign on some corners that most people would struggle to do more than 40kmp/h around. Is it safe to do 100kmp/h around that corner because a sign says that you can? Hell f*cking no.

Please use a bit more common sense.

No no, you're misinformed. Read my post again, particularly the part you decided to highlight. Do you know what the word subjective means? And are you familiar with the context I used it in...twice?

Also note this part of a post that I made not long after: "It would be different if there was ice or oil or snow on the road". That's the sound of me conceding that there are some extreme conditions for which I would expect to be fined for when sticking to the speed limit throughout. You make it sound like I would ignore the fact that my car is losing traction, provided I am under the speed limit...which is just ridiculous...who would? Not only this, but I finished my post with a statement implying uncertainty as to how exactly a speed limit is decided upon. I don't need to be told I'm misinformed when I've shown evidence of second guessing my knowledge anyway.

Just as the law accounts for it, you too need to remember that there are ALOT of drivers out there who will stick to the speed limit no matter the conditions. I believe speed limits are designed conservatively for this reason. If you give the people written permission to do something, many will. We have had many a decrease in speed limit for built up and non-built up areas here in Victoria. Has the road toll decreased since the inception of these decreases? Nope; the original speed limits were conservative to begin with. Speed camera revenue sure has gone up though.

As for the Great Ocean Road, there are MANY signs suggesting a slower speed than 100km/h on corners. Did you not see/read these last time you drove down it? That to me is common sense.

P.S. Well said rh1n0 :D

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R33_Dude Rising Star

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Its good to know the OP learnt from his mistakes - as most of us have.

In terms of the driving under the limit thing I live in Tasmania which has a (mostly) crappy population but some of Australias best driving roads around the corner from my back door. The speed limit on them is 110 kph mostly. I would say on a bright sunny day with perfect road conditions plus zero traffic you couldn't do the speed limit without, say, an R34 Z tune and gentlemen Jim driving for you and EVEN THEN I doubt its possible - some of the linked hairpins are insane off camber, uphill, narrow, blind corners that frequently have trucks travelling in the opposite direction.

Have seen many a car with victorian number plates/inexperienced/people from hobart who have never seen a windy road in ditches....

Drive to the conditions and all that crap.

llama_au Grand Master

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As for the Great Ocean Road, there are MANY signs suggesting a slower speed than 100km/h on corners. Did you not see/read these last time you drove down it? That to me is common sense.

Yes, I've seen those signs. There's also a number of areas where there is no suggested speed for an up-coming corner.

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