E-manage with Skyline

[strutto]

What sort of piggy back is it skylineakt?

What are our options for piggybacks beside SAFC, emanage, unichip?

[skylineakt]

I didn't even know there is a manual ecu. So AutoTrust did you just did a swap with the gearbox's ecu?? Sorry dude just a bit confused.

Apprantely there is a problem with the PFC not communicating properly the TPS and something else across to the auto ecu.

[666DAN]

Yeah it's the whole tiptronic thing with the 34's which is a no go for the PFC....also Apexi will also state that their product is for manual only...even if it can be fudged a bit

[skylineakt]

I just brought myself an e-manage. Haven't install it yet but will keep you guys posted. That is why I started this thread, to find out if anyone else here have one installed already.

All the ones you mentions are the only ones I know. We don't have much choice to we. Bit sad considering the FASTERS WREX IS AN AUTO!! hehe

[strutto]

There is a difference between the engine ecu's for the 33 auto and manual.

The auto engine ecu has a more conservative tune and pulls some timing on the gear changes...

[skylineakt]

Yeah but like the auto actually have its own ecu for the gearbox.

The manual gearbox doesn't have its own ecu, does it??

[strutto]

Nope...

[skylineakt]

OK hehe I was a bit confused about what AutoTrust post. I though he swaped the gearbox's ecu, but he just swapped the main car's ecu to run with the auto's ecu.

AutoTrust you mention that your manual ecu is modified. How?

I know that the R32 can be chiped and stuff but I have heard nothing for the R33.

[strutto]

I "think" that the Nissan engine ECU's send / push / relay info on certain pins.

These pins are connected to electronic stuff inside the shiny box in Nissan ECU's...

They aren't on Apexi ECU's...

All guessing though as I haven't tried it... For all I know there may not even be a problem...

[skylineakt]

Well Craz0 was saying something about finding the TPS pins to hook it up.

I don't think there is major problems running a PFC with an auto, except for some bugs. Like it will still changes gears etc. But it is hard to say about the long terms results.

[AutoTrust]

I read that other thread and now my head hurts! What happened was I was complaining to the boys at J-spec about my computer not letting me run increased boost, Craig said here try this it's a modified Ecu out of my last car, I then pulled the covers off and looked around inside to find an extra circuit board and EPROM ..very interesting. Then i removed the standard auto ECU from my auto 33 and looked inside to find it had an extra chip when compared to a standard manual ecu. I then found some pin out info on the r33 and found that the auto uses more pins, that in turn run to the other side of the car to the auto control unit.........It was a little daunting but I just plugged the modded manual ecu in and drove the sucker around the block... all seemed well. then on my way home i pulled up occasionally and dialled the boost up a notch or two to find that it went faster and faster without me eating steering wheel!! (no fuel cut). Now the only problem i have is that the boost leaks off down to 0.5. So now i need the money for an electronic boost controller. (any body need an alarm)?!!! As for the 34 ... keep us all posted skylineakt hope you have a win with the e-manage

[skylineakt]

That is very interesting. People reckons that the R33 ecu can't be chipped properly. But by the sound of it your's has been chipped. I know some people will actually swap R32 ecu over so they can chip it.

I need some money too before I can install my e-manage. I spoke to guys from BMT and everything sounds pretty positive at the moment.

[AutoTrust]

The ECU in my car was modded in japan, I just got lucky I suppose. I'm focussing on getting my impul body kit fitted, then boost controller then interior etc. etc. and hopefully without the missus noticing too much!! eventually i would like a manual conversion cos autos are scary sideways!!

[nemz]

why would u buy an auto skyline

[strutto]

3 reasons:

Cause autos R00L!

Cause we por...

Cause we can

[AutoTrust]

For me it was so if in an emergency my wife could drive it too. And its very hard to find a 4door manual. I prefer 4doors.

[strutto]

Everybody prefers 4 Doors...

And they go faster too!

[skylineakt]

My reason is the same as strutto.

Money and I had trouble with my last manual car.

Completely lost 3rd gear and just couldn't be bother with manual in the traffic.

But if my auto dies on me I will change it over to manual.

[JimX]

I think it's safe to say that even the cheapest option (2nd hand blue screen version 1 S-AFC) is good for 20-30rwkw or more on a stock or mildly modded Skyline (one guy recently got +60!). What's more important though is the shape of the power curve, the amount of power available down low and in mid range, response of the throttle, etc.

My S-AFC gave me +30rwkw on its last tune. However it was entirely useless because after 5000rpm or so I got 2 mammoth dips in power, due to what I believe (and hope) was boost cut. I had a Fuel Cut Defender in the car but it wasn't wired up!

I'm guessing the E-manage is more than capable of helping with all the above, but how well it does it compared with say, a PowerFC or Wolf would determine if it's good value or not.

Although with an auto box your choices are somewhat more limited and the E-manage may be the best choice because of this. Even though it's more costly than an S-AFC2, it would have to be a better (but more expensive) option due to the extra harnesses.

[skylineakt]

I find that the E-manage is getting cheaper and cheaper. Not sure if it is because of our $$ curency or that no one buying it.

I think you can get a bargain E-manage if you are lucky. Like I got mine with all the optional harness for $550 brand new.

S-AFC2 the cheapest I have seen is about $450 so for an $100 bucks extra I think it was worth it.

In term of tuning, if the e-manage can handle the ignition harness with the auto box, I will be able to modify the ignition controls as well. Plus more points to play with than the SAFC2 on the fuel curve.