Anti-theft Inverse Current Shock System

[Taran]

Hey Guys,

Thinking of implementing something like an anti-theft system that arms all metal exterior surfaces on the car with a decent current, enough to provide a good shock to anyone attempting to steal the car.

Anyone have any ideas on how to implement it? I'm thinking i'll need to switch out all electronic gear so it doesn't get fried when the car is armed.

[ylwgtr2]

[HtwCHACtkh]

Sounds quite the lol... don't know if it's legal tho.

A quick google finds:

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/general-mp...arm-system.html

[Taran]

Nice! Thanks for the link man.

Would be cool to electrify all panels too, so that those annoying mofo's that lean on my car causing scratches and shiz will think twice.

[Taran]

Alright, just bought this - http://www.bakatronics.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=385

Gonna experiment and post back with some results

[danielr34]

lol... Sounds to me like you will need 40,000gigawatts of electricity to run this alarm (the kind of power you get from a lightning strike), then all you have to do is get the car to 80m/hr but not sure what your going to do about the flux capacitor, I checked on ebay and can't find any, they must of sold out.

lmao

[30three]

^fkn lol. the old flux capacitor.

as far as i know its not legal. most junkies that get zapped after touching your car are likely to start smackin' out and trash your car for zapping them

[Chris Rogers]

electric fence controller - easier- did that one back in the early 90s got into the shit with the police over it as well.

what to you do if it fries a 2 y/o kid and they die ??

[Carbon 34]

electric fence controller - easier- did that one back in the early 90s got into the shit with the police over it as well.

what to you do if it fries a 2 y/o kid and they die ??

I can say yes I have done it on a few cars, not fence controllers, but E-stem machines, and point contact tasers taken apart for us on a ferrari testarrosa door handles( USA)

but your asking for trouble using them here in OZ, the crooks have too many rights to sue you ????

and No I wont provide details for use here so dont PM me.

best option is to deter them before they touch the car, visual deterents, microwave sensors, multi layer security or just common sense not to park in shonky area in the first place. remove all items from view helps a lot.

even a 6 buck steering wheel club will delay a crim for a few seconds more then he likes ..if used in conjuction with a alarm

[frx026]

best thing to do after you buy all the components to do this is get yourself a really good lawyer.

the first person to be injured, even a thief could sue you for damages.

the cops would most likely do you for intention to mame or building a mantrap, either one would be jail time...

[HtwCHACtkh]

If you put a pretty clear warning sign on your car saying it's electrified would it still be illegal? It's no longer a mantrap this way, it's kind of like having an electric fence is it not? Besides it's your private property, it shouldn't really be touched anyway..

The 2yo kid story is kind of scary tho, but a 2yo kid could also touch an electric fence..

EDIT: As for the low power tingler, it looks like that could be the sort of device they use in those games that give you a little zap is it enough? I've never touched an electric fence before (always pussied out..... like a boss) but how does it compare?

And 30three is more than likely right, a little zap would really piss off a thug if they had an intention.

Edited May 14, 2009 by Alinys

[frx026]

I asked a mate before replying to this, he is a cop, pretty high up on his definition of a man trap. He looked into it and told me that under the definition of the law it is any device purposely made to harm, mame or kill a person. Your device would fall into this catagory.

As for a warning notice, even if you had one you'd get your ass handed to you in court.

there have been plenty of cases already through the courts where there have been clear warning signs and people have been hurt.

those people that have been hurt have sued and won big time. Even in the case of people either doing stupid or illegal things.

an electric fence around a property is a little different than what you are proposing as the fence is not on public land, such as a car park, but on private land.

however having said that, its my understanding that even someone injured on private land, even while trying to commit a crime can sue.

you have to look at it this way dude, there are so many things that could go woring, why open yourself up to potential dmages.

we already had the example of a child...

what about someone with a pacemaker, a small amount of current can cause them to fail.

or if your electrical device malfunctioned after a collision

or if your electrical device caused a collision

or if you were to park against something and somehow it caused a fire.

etc, etc...

there are plenty of decent ways to protect your car, but if your really that paranoid about it i would suggest

sell your car and buy a car you dont car about..

[-FIGJAM-]

if i was to flog a car, and it gave me a zap such as one from a electric fence (doesnt hurt, not even as bad as rubbin ur feet on the carpet n giving a shock like that) anyway, not only would i laugh about it and drain as much of the power i could by continuing to touch it, i would probably kick the crap out of the car, pore brake fluid over it, etc etc

Think like a crime, u screw with them when they screwing you, better hope your better at it then they are.

Also i wouldnt mind betting that insurance wouldnt touch you with a 10foot pole if u have it installed and have a accident whilst driving.

My 2c