Looking To Change Over My Suspension From Coilovers To Sk Setup

[Taso84]

Looking to finally get rid of my tein coilovers and go for the more street friendly setup that Sydney kid used to recommend/supply before he disappeared off these forums.

Only problem is i don't know the specifics of what his setup was.

From memory it was:

6/4 (f/b) whiteline springs with bilstein shocks

whiteline sway bars

Can any1 confirm the spring rates and/or provide any part numbers for any of the parts above.

Also would be keen on a workshop/shop that can supply these parts at reasonable prices that anyone can recommend.

Thanks guys

Edited May 10, 2009 by Taso84

[Munkyb0y]

yeah i did some research into this already, and with sloazr33's help, i came up with these part numbers.

The springs he used were whiteline. I think the fronts were 4kg and the rears were ~3kg

Part numbers:

Front: Spring-coil Lowering Kit WSL - Control - 73175

Rear: Spring-coil Lowering Kit WSL - Control - 83139

The shocks are Bilstein B6 Sport

Part Numbers:

Front: #F4-B46-1873-H0

Rear: #F4-B46-1916-H0

SK's shocks had extra circlip grooves (for height adjustment) machined into the shock body. They dont come standard off the shelf with these, but you can request this from your supplier.

Also, i've been told that King Springs in a similar rate, are a better alternative.

Contact Daniel at Elite Racing. He does this exact package with the king springs.

[Taso84]

Thanks mate, that really helpfull. I'm assuming that these part numbers were for the 33 gtst, shouldv'e mentioned that in my fist post.

Also what the diff b/w kings and whiteline springs? I was sort of leaning towards getting eibachs instead of whitelines but not sure now

[Munkyb0y]

yeah thats for R33. i just assumed lol.

the kings have progressive rates front and rear. I think the whitelines are only progressive rears.

Eibach would also be a good choice, but you need to be careful with matching the spring rate to the damper.

So if you stay with approx the same spring rate it should be ok.

[_Ryan_]

i thought you wanted linear rate if you are going to be playing with the height with the circlips

[Munkyb0y]

well ideally, you leave the circlips in the standard position. (350mm centre of wheel to guard)

if you drop the height, you shorten the stroke of the shock, and you're stuffing up the whole setup. ive been warned and triple warned about this, and that's why i cant commit to using this setup.

ive tried to convince myself, but 350mm is too high. lol

anyway, i'm not an expert, so ask daniel from elite racing. he will send you a very detailed reply.

edit:

actually, i'd like to see pics of some cars that are using SK's or Elite Racing's bilstein set up to see just how high or low it looks.

caaaarn guys. shows us ur bilsteins

Edited May 10, 2009 by Munkyb0y

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

i run 325mm and even that could be a little lower, visually speaking ofcourse....

so add an inch to that basically

[Munkyb0y]

is that 325mm all around? and i know these arent bilsteins. you have the greddy type s coilovers in there.

whats the standard ride height, front and rear? anyone know?

i think i read somewhere 375mm, but not sure if thats only front.

i just picked up a set of tein super streets, and wondering how low they can go on the 33.

btw joeyjoejoeyoufknbastardilovethelookofyourcar

Edited May 11, 2009 by Munkyb0y

[_Ryan_]

cant you get short stroke bilsteins?

[Taso84]

350mm on the back is perfect for me but i'd prefer around 360mm on the front to save my front bar from scraping on gutters.

So this SK setup comes with 350m (centre wheel to guard) for the front and back?

Also, i know Sydney Kid mentioned that his setup was hard enough for all tracks except maybe Phillips Island, but 4/3 seems abit to soft for track. What do u guys think?

Monkeyboy, i gather that you didnt end up getting SK's pack and went for the tein SS. Was there any reason for this other than the height that you didnt like?

[_Ryan_]

  Taso84 said:

350mm on the back is perfect for me but i'd prefer around 360mm on the front to save my front bar from scraping on gutters.

So this SK setup comes with 350m (centre wheel to guard) for the front and back?

Also, i know Sydney Kid mentioned that his setup was hard enough for all tracks except maybe Phillips Island, but 4/3 seems abit to soft for track. What do u guys think?

Monkeyboy, i gather that you didnt end up getting SK's pack and went for the tein SS. Was there any reason for this other than the height that you didnt like?

i run similar rates in the stag, i think they would be fine in a GTST, aslong as you have swaybars.

[badhairdave]

It's hard enough for track work if you are using street tyres and big sway bars.

semi slicks like a stiffer spring, around the 6/5 mark, or you can run a higher spring rate again with stock sway bars. There are a few ways to achieve a similar result. Each has it's own merits and short comings.

As has been mentioned already, the main failing with this set up is the stroke of the shock. The soft spring rate doesn't help in that regard so you can end up smashing your bump stops in certain situations where stiff sway bars don't contribute.

[Munkyb0y]

  Munkyb0y said:

whats the standard ride height, front and rear? anyone know? (R33)

i think i read somewhere 375mm, but not sure if thats only front.

i just picked up a set of tein super streets, and wondering how low they can go on the 33.

someone answer Munkyb0y's question.....

yeah...someone answer him

Edited May 11, 2009 by Munkyb0y

[Munkyb0y]

  Taso84 said:

Monkeyboy, i gather that you didnt end up getting SK's pack and went for the tein SS. Was there any reason for this other than the height that you didnt like?

well i got them for a good price vs the bilsteins which seem kind of pricey + the adjustability, and ive heard so many good reports on them.

[08r3308]

  joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo said:

i run 325mm and even that could be a little lower, visually speaking ofcourse....

so add an inch to that basically

that looks hot , but maybe drop the back another 10mm and will be fine

i agree that 350mm is to high

[GTR-32U]

^^ Yep that is a Beautiful 33. I was never a fan of the red colour, But the rim choice,kit etc the end result is really very nice

[Taso84]

  Munkyb0y said:

well i got them for a good price vs the bilsteins which seem kind of pricey + the adjustability, and ive heard so many good reports on them.

Have you put them in yet? What spring rates did you get and how are they?

Also what was the price differential b/w the two setups?

[Munkyb0y]

i bought the teins second hand, so its not a viable price comparison in my case.

but the bilsteins with king spring, or whiteline springs will set you back at least $1500 or so, depending what kind of deal you can get. thats about the cheapest i could get them (WITH circlip adjustment).

i think the teins sell for about $2100 delivered from Nengun .

I havent installed them yet. Waiting on some c spanners. They come with a 4kg spring rate front and rear i believe. Ive also heard 5kg front, 4kg rear. But either way, its not a heavy spring.

And from all accounts, they provide a very comfortable ride at soft damper setting, that can be turned up to quite stiff if you require. 16 level damper adjust.

Edited May 12, 2009 by Munkyb0y

[petern]

  Munkyb0y said:

someone answer Munkyb0y's question.....

yeah...someone answer him

I think this was from SK R33 GB thread

"Standard (new) height is 380 mm front and 370 mm rear"

For the OP:

Definitely get a front swaybar

BNF24Z whiteline Swaybar 24mm-h/duty Blade adjustable

[Munkyb0y]

  petern said:

I think this was from SK R33 GB thread

"Standard (new) height is 380 mm front and 370 mm rear"

thank you