unusual tyre wear

[Guest skylinegirl]

hi guys,

i have a problem with my R33, the right rear tyre is wearing on the inside,im only getting 10,000k,s out of it maximum.All my tyres wear on the inside but i can get 20,000k,s out of the rest of them which im told is normal for performance tyres.Ive had new shocks installed in the rear as the right one was stuffed,i thought that may have been the reason for the unusual wear but it wasnt.I had a wheel alignment done after the shocks were installed and the last set of new tyres and i still got wear on the right rear, ive taken it back to wheel alignment guys and they dont think its anything to do with the wheel alignment.Can anyone help me as to what may be the problem????

............Thanks

[BuzLightyear]

Sometimes wear in the bushes of the upper control arms causes this type of wear...

[jvs007]

have u tried swapping the rear rims over, so u can determine if the problem is on the rim (maybe buckled) or if it's the right hand side suspension.

[Mick Trainer]

What camber, castor and toe are you running? The alignment guys should have told you this.

Mick.

[JimX]

Toe angle can be a major culprit here. Negative camber will affect tyre wear slightly, but not nearly as much as bad toe. I wore mine down to the steel belts before I noticed! I was keeping an eye on the outside edges of my tyres which was still almost brand new, then when I took my car in for tuning, my mechanic said "you know about your tyres being worn down to the belts don't you?" "NO!?" Had a look when it was on the hoist, fark!!!!! The front tyres had gone from new to dangerous in about 8000km.

It could also be worn suspension bushes (causing your toe to fluctuate). How are they doing your wheel alignment? With lasers or strings? And are they doing a 4 wheel alignment or just front?

[Guest skylinegirl]

I have a print out of the wheel alignment.So hopefully its on that.(camber,castor and toe) I'll have a look for it let you know....thanks mick

Yeah same here jimx......Done with lasers and yes it was a 4 wheel alignment.......What have you done to yours to fix the problem???

[JimX]

To fix mine I got it 4-wheel aligned with lasers If yours was done properly then there's probably something wrong with your suspension.

[skyguy3804]

If there was something wrong with your suspension, surely they would have picked it up while doing to '4 wheel' alignment. Take it elsewhere & get a second opinion. Last time I got mine done was at Pedders - 4 Wheel Alignment cost ~$100.00, they checked my car out before doing the alignment, plus they had white papers on what the correct figures should be (camber, castor, toe) all the skylines (32,33,34). Good luck with it.

Cheers,

C.

[Mick Trainer]

Originally posted by skylinegirl

I have a print out of the wheel alignment.So hopefully its on that.(camber,castor and toe) I'll have a look for it let you know....thanks mick

Yes it certainly should be there. Let me know what they are and I can tell you if that is the problem. Even if u do have a problem with the suspension it should show up on the alignment.

If you cant figure it out let me know and I will get a fax number you can send it to so that I can have a look and see what it says.

Mick.

[Milo]

Yeah check the toeing. Mine was set for a 300zx! It wore hell bad.

[Sonic]

If the toeing's really bad maybe you should call a toe-truck...

[Mick Trainer]

If it is wearing on the inside then it is toe out.

Mick.

[Jimbo2000]

where do you get a laser wheel allignment?

also need a tyre rotation and cbf doing it myself

[JimX]

Goodyear at Castle Hill do a fantastic 4 wheel alignment with lasers, and it only costs $60. They are familiar with Skylines too, they can get it up on the ramps even if you have a really low front bar (like I do ) It's a major hike even for me but they're open Saturdays and worth the effort.

[Jimbo2000]

going for a drive up to queensland in december andi think its a good idea to have this done before heading off

thanks man

[Guest skylinegirl]

hi mick i got the wheel alignment print out.........FRONT camber left......(before) -1 deg.09' (after)-1 deg.11'

toe left..... (before) +0.60m (after) +1.40m

total toe.....(before) +2.80m (after) +2.70m

cross camber....(before) +0 deg. 01' (after) +0 deg. 02'

toe right.......(before) +2.20m (after) +1.30m

camber right......(before) -1 deg. 10' (after) -1 deg.09'

REAR

camber left......(before) -1 deg.30' (after) -1 deg. 31'

toe left......(before) +2.30m (after) +2.20m

total toe.....(before) +2.70m (after) +4.20m

cross camber.....(before) +0 deg.10' (after) +0 deg. 09'

toe right.....(before) +0.60m (after) +2.00m

camber right......(before) -1 deg. 40' (after) -1 deg.40'

FRONT SETBACK -0 deg. 01'

REAR SETBACK +0 deg. 18'

THRUST ANGLE +0 deg. 01'

[Guest skylinegirl]

someone suggested getting a rear camber kit...

[Mick Trainer]

Hmm there is certainly nothing hugely wrong there. 1degree neg camber is not a big concern thats for sure and 2mm toe is nothing massive either. All looks good there. You may need to get it done again just to make sure that it is right but looking at that all looks good. A rear camber kit may help marginally butif those readings are correct then really it is not going to improve things much. Other than suggesting getting another alignment done just to be sure I don't have much to offer. Sorry.

Mick.

[hippy]

i got my alignment the other day ... and yeah the guy was laughing a bit cause it was pretty off .. like i think my toe was at 16mm when it should be 2 LOL ... but its all fixed now .. so well worth the 45 bucks i paid after a 15 buck discount cause i'm so good lookin

[hippy]

and yeah ... huge difference in grip and handling!!! it really does feel like a sports car now hehehe