Monaro goes 4WD

[predator]

Looks like Holden is FINALLY entering the 4WD sports coupe arena with a 4WD version of their GTS Monaro.. With some power upgrades, might finally be a bit of a challenger to the GTR:

http://carsguide.news.com.au/sydneymotorsh...2-28977,00.html

Wonder whether they'll be allowed to whack them on Mount Panarama next year?

Let the abuse begin!

p.s. i still hate commonwhores, but i just found this of interest.

[GIGOLO]

95K for a holden, no way!

[franks]

yeah this had to be done to compete with the family sized magna's and liberty's etc....i guess. i have mixed feelings about this car, but god damn it looked sexy IRL.

[DriftPanda]

i have an unreasonable dislike 4 all commodores

i dont have a problem with the car itself, just nearly every1 that drives em is a w****r

"i drive a commodore so this road belongs to me, im gonna tail gate u coz i drive a shiney taxi"

anyway... ur local bogan cant afford 1 of them shiney 4wds give me 95k for a gtr, then we'll see... when will they learn?

[Driver]

I find its not so much the people who drive monaros and newish hsv's, just the people driving a rust bucket vn v8 commodores etc.

[Rezz]

Monaro goes 4 wheel drive?

How much would that monstrosity weigh????

I can see the headline now:

"Holden sticks it to the GT-R!!! Well... ...in general overall chassis layout... ...kinda... ... F*CK YOUSE RICERS!!!!"

And the headline that the Holden legal team suggests:

"Monaro goes 4WD, and shakes up the SUV market."

[EnricoPalazzo]

wats weird is that the car has a 270kw engine, but 0-100 times are 6.1secs. Why is it so slow?

[Sonic]

It weighs over 1920kg, is a "luxury all-wheel drive" cruiser. Not a hardcore performance car. I asked the engineers yesterday (trade day) about it and asked if it was STi/Evo/Skyline fighter and they said no,, it's aimed at Audi RS6 or Falcon GT.

And why are all commodore drivers wankers? Just because their automotive needs are different to yours you use childish insults? I'd rather be a wanker than a narrow-minded bigot

[Jimbo2000]

Originally posted by Rezz

I can see the headline now:

"Holden sticks it to the GT-R!!! Well... ...in general overall chassis layout... ...kinda... ... F*CK YOUSE RICERS!!!!"

hahah thats great ^

seriously i think it looks quite spunky and would perform pretty damn well (dont know monaros quality is as bad as the rest)

but i just cant justify that amount of money for a holden i think to appeal to the 50k market is fair enough but 100k is just out of their league, just my opinion

[Sonic]

Jimbo, you driven a 300kW HSV? The quality might be woeful but the grunt and performance make it an absolute bargain...

[Mini Me]

power is down from 285kw (VY series2) to 270kw because the drivetrain can't handle any more ATM. Also, it's auto only.

Different weights are being thrown around, but i've heard from more people that it's just over 1800kg - up about 100kg from the std monaro I think. Someone else also said that unlike FWD magna's etc there is not going to be as big a weight penalty by powering all 4 wheels, as the rear drive part is the heaviest.

[Rezz]

The 4WD Monaro kind reminds me of the Aston Martin in the latest 007 film... but without all the fancy crap and just as heavy.

[Sonic]

Drivetrain can handle plenty more. You seen the Crewman SS? 2.5tonne towing capacity by using the auto from the 300kW Senator. That had heaps more torque than the 4x4 Munro (525Nm compared to 440-460Nm)

[Jimbo2000]

nah havnt driven one, wouldnt say no

jap technology is more appealing to me personally but i dont doubt that the big hsv's are a dream to drive

also read in the paper this morning that the 4wd is more rwd bias unlike other 4wd, is this similar to atessa?

[Sonic]

Yeah, I've driven Crewman and it's like that (doriftu crazy with 245kW V8!). It would fry its rears while the front just pulled it around. Oh so drift-able even as a 2-tonne dual-cab ute!

The system is actually based off ATESSA which is based off the Porsche 959 System (although the 1984 Porsche system wasn't as advanced as Nissan's due to it being first designed in the mid 1970s)

[DAN00H]

sonic you want to pay 100k to get 300kw from a car that is build from the cheapest pieces available??? Not when you can pick up an R34 GTR for 80k.... I don't know why people get so excited when the local guys do something thats been around elsewhere for years. HOLDEN Holes Oil Leaks Dents Engine Noises...

[Sonic]

Try insuring a GT-R where i live. I'm 20 so let's see you insure ANY turbo or import.

HSV is more comfortable and docile than R34. Yes i've driven both and I stand by my choice of HSV, it suits my needs as i'm not driving on a race track every day or every month.

GT-R is a beaut car but not my ideal driver. That'd be a 996 Turbo or M3

[DAN00H]

dude - try insuring the 300kw 100k taxidore, also not cheap.

describe comfort? wallowing around in the corners, sliding in the seat? no you are right the two are different - but give me the GTR any tick of the clock. last time I checked the 996 or M3 wasn't built on the commodore chassis, so I don't get your point about daily driver... my ultimate DD would be the Bently Arnage R or Continental T - fast class.

[Jimbo2000]

Originally posted by DAN00H

sonic you want to pay 100k to get 300kw from a car that is build from the cheapest pieces available??? Not when you can pick up an R34 GTR for 80k.... I don't know why people get so excited when the local guys do something thats been around elsewhere for years. HOLDEN Holes Oil Leaks Dents Engine Noises...

theres no need to attack him bro, he's made his choice, i'd personally prefer a 33gtr and blow 40k on making unbreakable but he knows what he likes and i respect that

[DAN00H]

fair nuf, he seems to have driven everything, so thought he'd appreciate the acronim. I've still got a FORD Found On Rubbish Dump... gotta be able to laugh at yourself every now and again.

Yes - I've driven holdens as well, so I'm allowed to poke a bit of fun at them, bout time the 'rice burners' got some back on the local lards...