Spunky Munky Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Hey fellas, This begs the question, are old and worn intercoolers better? I noticed that some top-notch street machines, e.g. R33 GTR's out there have thousands of dollars spent on their engine exterior etc, but they're intercoolers are just simply rat-shit looking...by that I mean, they look all black, worn out and ready to cark it - but yet they're still kept on the car. This makes me curious if whether worn intercoolers are actually better for airflow etc - I mean, come on, good intercooler kits cost under $2K, surely if someone's gone out and spent $30K on their car, surely they can afford a new frontmounted intercooler? So there must be more too it? Any answers?? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/272610-are-worn-in-and-old-intercoolers-better-than-new-ones/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
lachlanw Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 "oh no , my intercooler "looks " worn out i better buy a new one " how stupid does that sound . arn't you only allowed one intake mod in certain places in australia who wants a massive shiny intercooler stickin out that screams "look at me " the gtr ones acctually work quite well if it aint broke dont fix it what exactly happens when an intercooler "carks it" does it collapse or blow up or something? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/272610-are-worn-in-and-old-intercoolers-better-than-new-ones/#findComment-4628217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basti Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 spunky clean out your intercooler, then come back and ask the question Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/272610-are-worn-in-and-old-intercoolers-better-than-new-ones/#findComment-4628245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
(OO)SKYLINE(OO) Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Standard R33 GTR intercoolers all came black in colour from factory. Standard R33 GTR intercoolers are great for over 300 kW's. "If it's not broken, don't fix it." Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/272610-are-worn-in-and-old-intercoolers-better-than-new-ones/#findComment-4628597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 hey bit offtopic but talkin bout old ic im jst wondering if i should have my intercooler cleaned on the inside; degreaser flushed through? reason i ask is cause in my uni labs we use autoclaves to sterilise and we must take into account temp vs time when fats are involved. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/272610-are-worn-in-and-old-intercoolers-better-than-new-ones/#findComment-4629023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basti Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 hey bit offtopic but talkin bout old ic im jst wondering if i should have my intercooler cleaned on the inside; degreaser flushed through? reason i ask is cause in my uni labs we use autoclaves to sterilise and we must take into account temp vs time when fats are involved. 50/50 kero/metho. fill, shake (block the inlets of course) empty. repeat until it runs out clear. flush with water and let dry. done Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/272610-are-worn-in-and-old-intercoolers-better-than-new-ones/#findComment-4629453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 50/50 kero/metho. fill, shake (block the inlets of course) empty. repeat until it runs out clear. flush with water and let dry. done madz, thanks for the recipe :-P where can u buy kerosine from; bunnings perhaps? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/272610-are-worn-in-and-old-intercoolers-better-than-new-ones/#findComment-4629600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozodos Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 lol yes Bunnings or any hardware shop is a good place to start. And does anyone actually bother to clean their intercoolers? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/272610-are-worn-in-and-old-intercoolers-better-than-new-ones/#findComment-4632016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/272610-are-worn-in-and-old-intercoolers-better-than-new-ones/#findComment-4632529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvia GTR Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 I never thought you would have to replace an intercooler unless the fins were all munted.... lol yes Bunnings or any hardware shop is a good place to start. And does anyone actually bother to clean their intercoolers? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/272610-are-worn-in-and-old-intercoolers-better-than-new-ones/#findComment-4634494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisrotary Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Yeah i wouldn't think it would be worth cleaning out. Oil is a good heat conductor anyway so would think an oily cooler would be such a bad thing(tho not that good). If its a good effeceint cooler there would be many reasons to change it. most coolers look very second hand quite quickly anyway eg filling with bugs stone dents branches pedestrians, whatever. I thought paint or powdercoatings would be more an insulator than anything hence why they usually come unpainted. because the idea is that you are trying get the heat out not keep it in. maybe only a minor insulator i haven't tested it myself. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/272610-are-worn-in-and-old-intercoolers-better-than-new-ones/#findComment-4640954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTROY Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 I would recomend cleaning intercoolers every now and then. I took mine out after a track day and found it was coated with oil on the inside due to the factory oil breather system. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/272610-are-worn-in-and-old-intercoolers-better-than-new-ones/#findComment-4640977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basti Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Yeah i wouldn't think it would be worth cleaning out. Oil is a good heat conductor anyway so would think an oily cooler would be such a bad thing(tho not that good). If its a good effeceint cooler there would be many reasons to change it. most coolers look very second hand quite quickly anyway eg filling with bugs stone dents branches pedestrians, whatever. I thought paint or powdercoatings would be more an insulator than anything hence why they usually come unpainted. because the idea is that you are trying get the heat out not keep it in. maybe only a minor insulator i haven't tested it myself. oil insulates. why do you think fat people are warmer? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/272610-are-worn-in-and-old-intercoolers-better-than-new-ones/#findComment-4641028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hr32gts Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Inter coolers are painted black from factory for thermal efficiency ... matte Black is able to dissipate heat far better than any unpainted alloy surface Sounds funny I know but research it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/272610-are-worn-in-and-old-intercoolers-better-than-new-ones/#findComment-4641043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
(OO)SKYLINE(OO) Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 ^^ From memory the R34 GTR V-Spec II Nur's Front mount intercoolers came in an unpainted alloy surface... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/272610-are-worn-in-and-old-intercoolers-better-than-new-ones/#findComment-4641515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 ^^ From memory the R34 GTR V-Spec II Nur's Front mount intercoolers came in an unpainted alloy surface... was jst looking at mine last night and its not black, sorta a coarse brushed alluminium Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/272610-are-worn-in-and-old-intercoolers-better-than-new-ones/#findComment-4641554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
(OO)SKYLINE(OO) Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 was jst looking at mine last night and its not black, sorta a coarse brushed alluminium I see, So the R34 GTR intercoolers must have came non painted. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/272610-are-worn-in-and-old-intercoolers-better-than-new-ones/#findComment-4641879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipolardragon Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 In my experience unless you are getting the intercooler very cheap, you would be better off with a new one. I have had intercoolers where you just dont seem to be getting the air cold enough. IDK maybe I just like the feel of putting new stuff into my imports. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/272610-are-worn-in-and-old-intercoolers-better-than-new-ones/#findComment-4642575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mralbino Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Inter coolers are painted black from factory for thermal efficiency ... matte Black is able to dissipate heat far better than any unpainted alloy surface Sounds funny I know but research it My new one is painted with a super thin coat of cheap (that is more solvent than actual paint) high gloss black, do you reckon the thermal efficiency would be negatively affected? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/272610-are-worn-in-and-old-intercoolers-better-than-new-ones/#findComment-4642885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Hey fellas,This begs the question, are old and worn intercoolers better? I noticed that some top-notch street machines, e.g. R33 GTR's out there have thousands of dollars spent on their engine exterior etc, but they're intercoolers are just simply rat-shit looking...by that I mean, they look all black, worn out and ready to cark it - but yet they're still kept on the car. This makes me curious if whether worn intercoolers are actually better for airflow etc - I mean, come on, good intercooler kits cost under $2K, surely if someone's gone out and spent $30K on their car, surely they can afford a new frontmounted intercooler? So there must be more too it? Any answers?? no, a worn in intercooler is no better than a new one. and a top shelf intercooler costs a fair whack more than $2K, but having said that $2K will certainly get a damn good one. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/272610-are-worn-in-and-old-intercoolers-better-than-new-ones/#findComment-4642903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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