Which is the ultimate? Supra VS GT-R

[T0nyGTSt]

HPI is very very Skyline biased though. AS far as they're concerned an issue without a Skyline is not an issue of HPI.

T.

[skylineakt]

Looking at the results the Skyline beats the Supra in every way.

But than again could be the driver. We will never know.

[dangerous_daveo]

Hmm looking at those results you would have to go the NSX-R, and not actually being turboed from the factory, you can still chuck one or two on top of that

[b0neR]

As i was saying, the GT-R was made and marketed basically as more of a racecar...and the Supra as a cruisy sportscar. Of course the GT-R will beat the Supra in every way when talking on a race track or from a deadstart down the 1/4 mile. So in the end it comes down to what you specifically mean.

If the question asker wanted to know what car is the ultimate on the track and 1/4 (assuming they are stock) then a GT-R would win hands down. On the other hand It would be a personal opinion on which looks and feels better because those traits are formed in an individuals mind.

It would be unfair to just dismiss the Supra because of the fact it is 0.63 seconds slower round tsukuba or is .9 secs slower down the 1/4.

Personally i love both of the cars and it would depend on the situation for which one i would consider 'Ultimate'.

[8thSIN]

hmm.. wow! look, I do agree that the skyline wins hands down all over the track, 1/4mile, circuit racing, etc.. it's just that I admire the supra in it's own design and capabilities being a rwd car, for it's amazing top end power and of course the extra gear to play around with

as said above, the GTR was made as a straight out of the box race car whereas the supra was more of a cruiser sportscar that both do similar jobs in a different way. I guess if it was more of a daily driver and/or regular track participant, the GTR would be the one for sure, but I do enjoy the regular freeway roll-ons!!

Bring on the HSV's.

[b0neR]

nah **** HSV.

[AndyMac]

The FD seems to be getting ignored.....

with the abilities and knowledge of rotaries in Australia, its hard to go past the 7 for me...

[Roy]

A pommie video i have kind of puts it into perspective. With Richard Burns driving the V-Spec R33 lapped a circuit fastest on the day.

It was pitted against a 911, NSX, Ferrari 355 & 550, Mitsubishi GTO, M3, Lotus Elise, Golf, Peugot 206...maybe a few others i cant remember. But all std road cars as supplied by the manufacturers.

[HKSgtst]

HSVs ? boring....

[8thSIN]

hmm.. few guys have mentioned the RX7, and although it is one of the supercars, they don't really appeal to me. weird huh?

i find the interior too cramped as I'm about 6ft and it kinda feels like the NSX interior where it would suit smaller sized guys. performance wise, very breathtaking and a mate took me for a spin on the eastern freeway and we hit 260kph in what seemed like seconds and the amazing thing is the car was stock as a rock.

I have always liked big, muscle cars like the gtr and supra, so I will stick to them.

[Penfold]

hehe i wouldnt exactly refer to gtr's & skylines as big muscle cars

[8thSIN]

k then.. big, shexy, fast cars?

[Rezz]

I`d refer to the GT-R and Supra as "much better than Muscle cars"...

[sewid]

Originally posted by T0nyGTSt

HPI is very very Skyline biased though. AS far as they're concerned an issue without a Skyline is not an issue of HPI.

T.

Making it the best mag out there.

[Sonic]

So if HSVs are boring, what about TVRs or CSVs or Gemballa Porkas...

[FYRARMS]

Couple of items:

1) Stock shortblock in a MKIV Supra has supported almost 1000rwhp. Visit www.T04R.com for the details. Take a peek at Mike Carlin's beast. 980rwhp using a power-robbing TH400 trans. Many cars there making mad power on stock internals.

2) Stock IRS rearend with stock axles and a TRD limited-slip in Paul Efantis' MKIV has gone 8.255 sec @ 171 mph on DRAG RADIALS. Not too shabby for a RWD car meant for "roll-on's". What is the GTR street radial tire record? Not some lightweight either, like some stripped R32. Paul's car weighs over 3200#.

3) Visit www.WOTM.com to see the fastest 6-speed, NO nitrous, full-weight street Supra. That Getrag V160 gearbox is tougher than you may think.

4) Visit www.TitanMotorsports.com to see their 8-second 6-speed DRAG RADIAL car. They now run a 2-speed Powerglide, but ran 8's with the Getrag.

5) Somebody mentioned the stroker kits availble for the GTR. There are stroker kits available for the Supra, also, and for a LOT less money. By simply machining the stock crank, Chevy small-block V8 rods can be fitted. I am currently having this done to my new engine. Final displacement will check in at 3.3L or more.

6) At the dragstrip, we have found no GTR advantage using the AWD system. Evo's and WRX's are no trouble, either. Why? Because we race on slicks at the track. We have no traction problems. If anything, we have seen many, many broken AWD components at the track, while the RWD cars keep going. The extra AWD weight and parasitic power loss is a hindrance as well.

7) For those that think Supras are only fast from a roll (popular rumor), there are many, many videos posted on SupraForums showing the opposite. Our own Chicago-area automatic street Supras cut consistent 1.4X and 1.5X 60' times at the strip.

8) Not flaming the GTR, as it is an awesome car that deserves much respect. I hope to own one in the near future to use as a street driver and roadcourse car. But I would never sell my Supra to buy one. I will have to keep them both...

Cheers,

Dan

[Boostzor]

Hey there FYRARMS, u still lurking around here eh

I think its a matter of personal choice. The supra is a heavier FEELING car (happy now) and therefore is better for long straights where as the gtr is a bit more chuckable through the city. Also the attessa makes it easier to control if ure playing silly buggers.

Personally id go for teh supra but thats only cause if have a thing for toyota build quality.

[GTSR22]

i would have to say the kgc10 gtr 1972 model what a car

[b0neR]

*Waits for some replies to the Supra-Sporting Yank*

[Boostzor]

I had a 1980 c210 and let me tell u that they aint all that. Sure its no GTR but it still handled like crap none the less. The back end had a mind of its own.