Smart Way To Make 225kw?

[RxGTR]

I want to try and get around 225kw with my NA RB25DE. What would be the smartest way to do it?

[RBTWENY5]

get a turbo

[WYTSKY]

lol, why 225.00kwS?

If this is in relation to the thread you made in vic section, then yes mate, turbo will be the "smartest" interms of cheapest, but its still not that cheap to get it all up and running....

[RxGTR]

get a turbo

I wish i could but im on p's

lol, why 225.00kwS?

If this is in relation to the thread you made in vic section, then yes mate, turbo will be the "smartest" interms of cheapest, but its still not that cheap to get it all up and running....

nah WYTSKY its coz im on my p's i wish i could but yeh...

[cerci]

stroke it? big cams? nos?

[RxGTR]

Stroking will cost like a few K. Cams yeh i surpose. As for nos ill pass im not Bryan O'connor

[dori34]

VH45DE, cams, bigger intake, head work, full ecu & tune

[scathing]

FYI the "smartest" thing to do would be to learn to drive. Upgrading the thing behind the wheel is the best "bang for buck" performance mod you can do, and it'll carry over to any car you own in the future.

As for nos ill pass im not Bryan O'connor

You've got GT-R "badging" on your name but you drive a 2WD Skyline, so if the last movie is anything to go by you're closer to O'Connor than you may think.

Stroking will cost like a few K. Cams yeh i surpose.

Good luck hitting 225kW with an old, non-turbo, 10+ year old, 2.5L engine that doesn't have VTAK or some other cam profile fiddling shenanigans. A stocker will make 140kW[/url] so you're effectively asking for 50% more power than a reasonably fresh engine.

There's no way you're doing that without cracking open the engine if you don't have boost or bottle. And that's going to cost you more than "a few K" to do.

Edited June 4, 2009 by scathing

[RxGTR]

FYI the "smartest" thing to do would be to learn to drive. Upgrading the thing behind the wheel is the best "bang for buck" performance mod you can do, and it'll carry over to any car you own in the future.

You've got GT-R "badging" on your name but you drive a 2WD Skyline, so if the last movie is anything to go by you're closer to O'Connor than you may think.

Good luck hitting 225kW with an old, non-turbo, 10+ year old, 2.5L engine that doesn't have VTAK or some other cam profile fiddling shenanigans. A stocker will make 140kW[/url] so you're effectively asking for 50% more power than a reasonably fresh engine.

There's no way you're doing that without cracking open the engine if you don't have boost or bottle. And that's going to cost you more than "a few K" to do.

Hahaha i like keyboard warriors like you. Really entertaining and full of ego but stop before you embarrass yourself ok? First off Without seeing me drive how can you make an automatic assumption of my driving skills? you have no right. Secondly Does the badge in my name really have to correspond with what i drive? Does that mean i have to be a GTS right now and once i get a GTR i have to re-register and THEN call myself RxGTR? Maybe its the future car i want. Maybe its the car i worship so don't i have the right to put it in my name if i choose too? Without anyone flaming me?

[R33_Dude]

Your NA RB25 will not make 225 KW naturally aspirated for under, say, ten grand minimum. At my trade prices.

Stroker kit: Tomei, 2.8 litre kit. Nearly 10 grand by itself.

Cams: Needed for higher RPM breathing - RPM being the only real way to increase your power considerably. Custom ground from comp cams is around 1500+ for a pair.

Independant Throttle Bodies: Can do it yourself with 4AGE ones and a modified intake, but still I would believe that alone would cost 3 grand.

Exhaust: a good $1500.

ECU: at these power levels neccessary - another 2 grand lets say tuned.

PLUS: a slew of other components from wiring to injectors to fuel pump and everything inbetween.

Even then its not gonna happen. Not without a RB30 bottom end and a modified RB26 head anyway.

You say you want to do it cheap? Let me put it to you like this. Your suggesting that without spending big dollars your car will DOUBLE its stock wheel power output?

Dream on.

Learn to drive first, I don't care how skilled you SAY you are your still a p plater in a NA skyline i.e. nothing special (unless of course you have raced at tracks since a young age go-karts, then once you had your licence normal open track days). Do some advanced driving courses at your local track. Not THAT expensive plus they are really worth it.

I'm not flaming - you don't have realistic goals. Realistically you could get, say, 130 RWkW's out of an R33 gts without spending a ridiculous amount of money. Not 225kW. Does anyone on here have a naturally aspirated stock engine size with that power? No. No they do not. Many R33 and R34 GTS-T's don't make that much power.

Research first. Otherwise you just sound like an idiot.

Edited June 4, 2009 by R33_Dude

[J3TR33]

save the money now, sell the car for when your off your p's, and then buy a GTR, simple,

everyone wants everything NOW, well you cant have the cake and eat it too, not flaming you or anything,

because once you get to say 200 or 225kw your gona want more and more, it never stops lol, i turboed my car thinking il be happy with 180-200 atw,

i have 180+ on it at the moment, and im already over it, dont get me wrong it will be fun, but for how long?,

wish i was patient and saved the money that i have put into my car, would have bought myself a R32 Gtr, a few nice ones on the forums with fresh rebuilds,

peace

[RxGTR]

Your NA RB25 will not make 225 KW naturally aspirated for under, say, ten grand minimum. At my trade prices.

Stroker kit: Tomei, 2.8 litre kit. Nearly 10 grand by itself.

Cams: Needed for higher RPM breathing - RPM being the only real way to increase your power considerably. Custom ground from comp cams is around 1500+ for a pair.

Independant Throttle Bodies: Can do it yourself with 4AGE ones and a modified intake, but still I would believe that alone would cost 3 grand.

Exhaust: a good $1500.

ECU: at these power levels neccessary - another 2 grand lets say tuned.

PLUS: a slew of other components from wiring to injectors to fuel pump and everything inbetween.

Even then its not gonna happen. Not without a RB30 bottom end and a modified RB26 head anyway.

You say you want to do it cheap? Let me put it to you like this. Your suggesting that without spending big dollars your car will DOUBLE its stock wheel power output?

Dream on.

Learn to drive first, I don't care how skilled you SAY you are your still a p plater in a NA skyline i.e. nothing special (unless of course you have raced at tracks since a young age go-karts, then once you had your licence normal open track days). Do some advanced driving courses at your local track. Not THAT expensive plus they are really worth it.

I'm not flaming - you don't have realistic goals. Realistically you could get, say, 130 RWkW's out of an R33 gts without spending a ridiculous amount of money. Not 225kW. Does anyone on here have a naturally aspirated stock engine size with that power? No. No they do not. Many R33 and R34 GTS-T's don't make that much power.

Research first. Otherwise you just sound like an idiot.

Hehe another keyboard warrior. And you're another person automatically assumes things.. how sad... im surprised that you even bothered commenting when you knew that you were going use an aggressive stance

[RxGTR]

save the money now, sell the car for when your off your p's, and then buy a GTR, simple,

everyone wants everything NOW, well you cant have the cake and eat it too, not flaming you or anything,

because once you get to say 200 or 225kw your gona want more and more, it never stops lol, i turboed my car thinking il be happy with 180-200 atw,

i have 180+ on it at the moment, and im already over it, dont get me wrong it will be fun, but for how long?,

wish i was patient and saved the money that i have put into my car, would have bought myself a R32 Gtr, a few nice ones on the forums with fresh rebuilds,

peace

Thankyou J3TR33 ill take your word and start saving. At least you're not the typical douche bags thats here to flame p-platers. thankyou again

[madbung]

If you have no budget constraints it might be possible at a stretch..

Guaranteed, if you do work it that hard and it would have to be "fully worked" it'll be a temperamental pig of a thing to drive.

A much better idea is either more cubes or forced induction.

Been there, lost that.

[Benzino33]

save the money now, sell the car for when your off your p's, and then buy a GTR, simple,

everyone wants everything NOW, well you cant have the cake and eat it too, not flaming you or anything,

because once you get to say 200 or 225kw your gona want more and more, it never stops lol, i turboed my car thinking il be happy with 180-200 atw,

i have 180+ on it at the moment, and im already over it, dont get me wrong it will be fun, but for how long?,

wish i was patient and saved the money that i have put into my car, would have bought myself a R32 Gtr, a few nice ones on the forums with fresh rebuilds,

peace

+1

[dori34]

lol, this guy wants help, he gets it and then calls them keyboard warriors.

if you really want that power, look at a motor upgrade to either Ls1 OR 350z/V35 worked motor which will cost more then a few k.

theres a few na guys here running just over 150rwkw with quite alot of $$$$ put into them.

you're talkinga bout 225kw at the wheels or engine?

then there is missr34 who got 177rwkw with nos.

[RxGTR]

lol, this guy wants help, he gets it and then calls them keyboard warriors.

if you really want that power, look at a motor upgrade to either Ls1 OR 350z/V35 worked motor which will cost more then a few k.

theres a few na guys here running just over 150rwkw with quite alot of $$$$ put into them.

you're talkinga bout 225kw at the wheels or engine?

then there is missr34 who got 177rwkw with nos.

lol unfortunately flaming isn't help.

Ive re- thought maybe around 150kw. smarter?

[N-DAWG]

Hehe another keyboard warrior. And you're another person automatically assumes things.. how sad... im surprised that you even bothered commenting when you knew that you were going use an aggressive stance

He stated facts. Gave real examples of what would be needed to possibly achieve that power figure without turbocharging.

Now you mentioned that you fall under P Plate restrictions, and your user name has underneath it Melbourne Victoria.

http://www.arrivealive.vic.gov.au/initiati...pply_if_yo.html

From this date a probationary licence holder cannot drive a vehicle if it has:

• An engine of eight or more cylinders;
  
• a turbocharged or supercharged engine (except diesel powered vehicles);
  
• an engine that has been modified to increase its performance; and/or
  
• any of the following high performance six cylinder vehicles as published in the
  Government Gazette:
  

To get 225KW out of a N/A RB25, some SERIOUS engine modifications will need to occur! It's not simply a case of no turbocharged cars and thats all. Take for example the 350Z.

Decide whether you want to keep this Skyline and modify it in the longterm (whether it be turbo modification or whatever), and then decide whether to drive it till you're off your P's and can drive a turbocharged Skyline. If you're happy to keep it N/A for now and want to make more use of power, then as said, improve your driving skills, get out on the track, do suspension and handling modifications and learn to control the car and get the most out of it in its N/A form.

Driving skill is something that takes years to develop, and even then practice makes perfect. 225kw's in a rear wheel drive is a lot of power compared to the 90-100rwkw that an N/A Skyline puts down at the wheels in its stock form, and without the supporting mods to control that power as well as the driver skill, things can turn ugly quickly.

Just a few supporting mods to control this sort of power: Tyres that can reliably put down 225kws, the right suspension set up, and brakes to stop that sort of power. Three important things that really you can do now, in preparation for more power when you're off your P's. No point having all that power if you can't get it to the ground, and stop the car just as quickly as it goes.

Now before you call me a keyboard warrior and flaming, I'm 23, I'm on my P's till the end of this year, fortunately I don't fall under the restrictions...however... I spent a year modifying my R34 starting with suspension, wheels/tyres, and brakes, BEFORE I started modifying it to get more power. Guess what? I don't regret it one bit! It has made me a better driver now, I feel more confident and more in control of the power I now have. We all have to crawl before we can walk.

The fact for you though is that you're on your P's, and therefore the law is going to look at you differently, even if you are a sensible mature driver. It's a sad but true fact.

Now to answer your original question, the smart way to make 225kw out of an RB25DE is to turbocharge it. If all you're after is a big power figure out of an N/A car whilst falling within your restrictions, then sorry to say this, but a N/A Skyline isn't going to be the car of choice. Like madbung said, more cubes or forced induction, and there are plenty of other 6 cylinder cars with more than 2.5litres.

[MissR34]

then there is missr34 who got 177rwkw with nos.

hmmm dat me

and it was 171rwkw Dori

[RxGTR]

mmm thankyou N-dawg but ive decided to lower the aim and save up instead. Though your knowledge is most helpful. Thankyou