Rb26 -how Do You Get Good Hp Numbers From Tuning ?

[555kkk]

27-3-09 Godzilla 30mins $200 519 4whp

5-6-09 CNJ motorsports 150mins $360 379 4whp

6-6-09 Mercury Motorsports 60mins $275 514 4whp

[Roy]

Did they tune the car or jsut run it on the dyno? Are you simply pointing out the differences in dynos?

[555kkk]

Did they tune the car or jsut run it on the dyno? Are you simply pointing out the differences in dynos?

Tune , i wanted to get the best numbers i could with the mods i have on my car. Just posting the details- time taken, hp reached and dollars charged

[Roy]

Oh ok. They are cheap tunes

What was the order of tuning. I mean the last guy is in the best position as he would have only been tweaking what otehrs had already done, whilt the first guy would have had the hardest job with the most work to do....lol or so i would think

[555kkk]

Oh ok. They are cheap tunes

What was the order of tuning. I mean the last guy is in the best position as he would have only been tweaking what otehrs had already done, whilt the first guy would have had the hardest job with the most work to do....lol or so i would think

i dont know the ins and outs of tuning thats why i get guys like this to do all the work on my cars, all i can go by is dollars spent, time taken and hp reached. Just thought id post what i know.

[Roy]

Yeh, ditto. But curious to know the order of who tuned the car first and last. Any feedback on the good old seat of the pants or fuel economy, or drivability? Pros/cons? LOL, i would kill for even your lowest figure

[wrxkilla]

so youve demonstrated by wasting money and running around chasing a few kw here and there that you should have been happy with your initial tune???

For me its not just the figure, its how they go about it.

Would love to know how much timing those workshops have in the tune. Might suprise you.

[555kkk]

Yeh, ditto. But curious to know the order of who tuned the car first and last. Any feedback on the good old seat of the pants or fuel economy, or drivability? Pros/cons? LOL, i would kill for even your lowest figure

i put the dates next to stats , godzilla was back in march - cnj was friday - Mercury was today.

if i start putting up who i thought was best , might put a few noses out of joint (considering i dont know much about the tunning side)

[260DET]

Not having a go at you but this is why some dyno tuners set their dynos up to read high. For this reason alone its unrealistic to compare results from different dynos.

[dazmo]

Just out of curiosity what makes these three shops three of the best ?. Would just be interested as to what you base this statement on word of mouth, advertising, some ones recomendation ?. As from my own experiance i can tell you that you can not tune a car properly in 30 min 60 min would be pushing it for a good tune and the other place mentioned has sever attitude problems/very poor customer service and I personally know people that have had issues with all three of the workshops you have mentioned. So would just like to know your logic behind that statement.

[DJRIFT]

i can see what you was trying to do but its not really help full to anyone.

its ok if you want to win prizes at auto salon but performance needs to be tested over a series of set goals. like taking it to the track with similar weather and tyre conditions without changing anything but the tune. ect ect. the CNJ tune for example is the lowest hp but it might be 2 seconds a lap quicker because they had tuned response rather than top end. and it might do 20 laps back to back because it was a safe tune. where as one of the others may be slow around a track because the car is laggy as shit and has un usable power. this tune may also only manage 4 laps back to back because it gets hot and starts to knock.

a good example is a friend of mine has a tuner "A" do all the work to his r33gtst. tuner A road tuned the car and had it put on a dyno just for a figure. it got a smigin over 300rwkw. but it would not even do a burnout. because it was a shit tune but it made 300rwkw. so he took it to tuner B who fixed all the issues caused by tuner A and got it retuned but it put out less power. but it does a good skid and runs like never before.

moral to the story is it the pice of paper doesnt mean much.

[SimonR32]

i have a few questions!

1. was the ecu reset between each tune?

2. who set the boost control, 2 graphs went to 20psi... but the godzilla one goes right up to 32psi (thats big boost and drops back to 20psi)

3. what turbo/turbos is on that thing? "WHY SO LAGGY"

[Rhys9]

i have a few questions!

1. was the ecu reset between each tune?

2. who set the boost control, 2 graphs went to 20psi... but the godzilla one goes right up to 32psi (thats big boost and drops back to 20psi)

3. what turbo/turbos is on that thing? "WHY SO LAGGY"

Where does the godzilla graph go to 32psi of boost

Rhys

[SimonR32]

sorry my bad, i was reading the power in kw not hp... so quickly read power as boost and boost as power haha

makes more sense now, power curve is very wierd though

Edited June 7, 2009 by Cerbera

[Duncan]

godzilla motorsports. intake temp 56o, max power 519hp (and why on earth hp in Aus unless they want the number to look bigger?) 389kw

CNJ intake temp 27o, max power 283kw

mercury motorsports intake temp 25o, max power 514hp (same again, why?) 386kw

anyway, unless you've asked for or noticed major changes in the tunes, all you have demonstrated is dyno readings are a pretty meaningless comparison. The the 2nd tune feel like it had 40% less power?

like Damzo, I'm wondering what made you prefer one shop over the others - if you are worried about forum rules just call them shop 1, 2 or 3

[555kkk]

Dont want to turn this into a he said she said .... they are the facts of what power they each got out of my car . I didn't have a preference over any of these shops , just thought id give out what happened.

if you have an alliance with one of these shops and feel the need to defend them cool go right ahead. Im not going to be dragged into all that bitchiness. i just wanted to put a bit of news out there.

oh yeah and i only meant "these three shops are SOME of the best in brisbane" im sure there are other shops just as good, these are just the three i went to. (tissues anybody ?)

[Risking]

More importantly what sort of lap times did each different tune churn out??

I've had some recent tuning changes and found a good second difference with less power.

[555kkk]

the 2.8 has apexi rx 6 twins, not really a track car. hence the lag-o-saurus

[Beer Baron]

did the tune with lower power really feel like it had half the power of the others?

did you re-set the power FC each time before going to the next tuner? that would be the way to go, see what each of them can do with the same starting point. cause if they are all just building on each others tune then it's hard to draw any conclusions.

[555kkk]

the second tune was flat - wasn't the same car as other two tunes, drove like a wet sock on sandpaper.