No Traction In 1st Gear

[StOjA32]

Hey guys, i have recently started modding my 32 gtst.

3inch zorst, fmic, Apexi PFC, 040 fuel pump, z23 afm. this is just the beginning stages of my work.

now with the slight mods and cooler weather i have noticed my car is going soo much better but now i cant seem to strech 1st gear out at all without it wheel spinning. as soon as i get to about 4,000 rpm the tail end goes sideways.

My rear tyres also have a wider track i beleive they are 235's.... i also think my suspension may be shot, when i accellerate with a bit of speed comming out of a corner the rear end starts to tramp.

... i would like to get these problems fixed as for i am not able to fully enjoy my driving. i just dont really know where to start.

appreciate your help guys

[NYTSKY]

Solid subframe bushes helps a little.

Try some stickier tyres.

[DRD-00F]

What tyres are you running?

[heller44]

  StOjA32 said:

...my 32 gtst.

appreciate your help guys

There's your problem.

In rwd I can't get tracktion in 1st at anywhere near full throttle, and even in second it is a joke.

Edited June 11, 2009 by heller44

[bin]

Get better tyres. They make heaps of difference.

[blind_elk]

"Doctor, it hurts when I do ...... THIS"

Then don't do "THIS". Take a bit of lead out of that right boot. You don't have to wring the neck out of every gear.

And maybe get some new shocks to control the axle tramp.

[Mr 20Valve]

the problem may be between the accelerator pedal & the seat

[StOjA32]

seriously guys ... if your trying to tell me you never give your car a little squirt ever now n then, then your either full of it or you bought a sports car for no reason?

my plans are to take my car down the 1/4 one day. you telling me i should drive like my grandma instead of trying to fix my traction issues.

[R31Nismoid]

Its simple - better tyres.

I run 280rwkw daily, no problems unles i do a very savage launch.

Has a bit of suspension love as well, but predominately its tyre choice first and foremost

[Roy]

Ditto, if i let the clutch out at idle and floor it through first most times i dont break traction in 1st. SOme road surfaces it will get a wigglw but generally its all traction with 260rwkws from an RB20. Decent suspension, quality tyres and a good alignment and be gentle with the clutch

[heller44]

At the drags it is a sidestep of the clutch with about 6500 on the dial, but, I have a lil advantage..

[s13_Skyline_inside]

they are not trying to say dont give it a squirt, they are just saying exercise a bit of throttle control, ease it on in fist, ive got a pretty much standard r34gtt with a bit of boost wound into it atm and it spins the wheels in first if i flatten it, not dump the clutch. Do you think when driving a race car they use 100% throttle in the lower gears, if a cars making decent power rwd it'll light them up

[StOjA32]

Cheers ..

time to get some new tires!

[Sydneykid]

  StOjA32 said:

Hey guys, i have recently started modding my 32 gtst.

3inch zorst, fmic, Apexi PFC, 040 fuel pump, z23 afm. this is just the beginning stages of my work.

now with the slight mods and cooler weather i have noticed my car is going soo much better but now i cant seem to strech 1st gear out at all without it wheel spinning. as soon as i get to about 4,000 rpm the tail end goes sideways.

My rear tyres also have a wider track i beleive they are 235's.... i also think my suspension may be shot, when i accellerate with a bit of speed comming out of a corner the rear end starts to tramp.

... i would like to get these problems fixed as for i am not able to fully enjoy my driving. i just dont really know where to start.

appreciate your help guys

Yet another story of going for the power upgrade before thinking about how you are going to be able to use it. The answer is in simple steps;

Decent tyres

Check the weight of the wheels, heavy wheels make it difficult for the suspension to control the excess weight

Decent shock absorbers, stay away from the junk "coil overs".

Proper alignment, done by a suspension specialist, not the local tyre shop, using aftermarket parts because there isn't enough adjustment standard

Cheers

Gary

[_Ryan_]

Ash, Troy, What Suspension/Diff/Tyres are you running?

I have Tein mono-flex 8/6, adjustable rear camber arms, whiteline subframe kit, cusco 2way, and ramping up on boost in second = no traction, its stable, but no traction, tyres are 50% advan something or other.... guessing the tyres leave alot to be desired, but should this setup with 180rwkw on low boost, 33GTR wheels(so not massive sidewalls) be fine for roll on traction once i get some decent rubber under there? The current setup is fun, but i can only think of it being slow haha

I know I am using coilovers but they came on the car, aren't very old, and are atleast mono-tube!

-Ryan

Edited June 19, 2009 by RB_Ryan

[GT-R32]

I had shitty Nexens and a rooted traction rod and even when the Toyo T1Rs I replaced the Nexens with it still had traction issues. All good now that the Toyos have worn in and the suspension has been fixed - this forum lead me to believe it might have been the clutches in the centre diff at one stage, potentially it might be getting a touch tired as the car has 100k kms on it and is old, but there is no issue now at all.

[Roy]

  RB_Ryan said:

Ash, Troy, What Suspension/Diff/Tyres are you running?

I have Tein mono-flex 8/6, adjustable rear camber arms, whiteline subframe kit, cusco 2way, and ramping up on boost in second = no traction, its stable, but no traction, tyres are 50% advan something or other.... guessing the tyres leave alot to be desired, but should this setup with 180rwkw on low boost, 33GTR wheels(so not massive sidewalls) be fine for roll on traction once i get some decent rubber under there? The current setup is fun, but i can only think of it being slow haha

I know I am using coilovers but they came on the car, aren't very old, and are atleast mono-tube!

-Ryan

How have you aligned your rear sub frame? I have minse setup for traction, other then that we are pretty similar. I have a KAAZ 1.5 diff, similar Ten shocks with slightly softer springs. But i run either RE55s or of late i was running the Bridgestones that came std on STIs and they were damn good street tyres.

But i suspect its the subframe angle that is the main difference.

[_Ryan_]

  Roy said:

How have you aligned your rear sub frame? I have minse setup for traction, other then that we are pretty similar. I have a KAAZ 1.5 diff, similar Ten shocks with slightly softer springs. But i run either RE55s or of late i was running the Bridgestones that came std on STIs and they were damn good street tyres.

But i suspect its the subframe angle that is the main difference.

I will get that looked at... first thing i am doing when the stagea goes(or tax return comes) is tyres... BTW, Have you driven a 32 without power steering? its like a big datto