ZED and GTR Challenge

[Mick Trainer]

Originally posted by vspecv

was johns time done with anchor onboard or not.

now that johns stroked his ego,someone go out and kick his ass

Ben needs to take his for a trip up north.

Mick.

[Boosted Zed]

Now that is better getting some of you guys reved up to have a go. Duncan I here what you are saying and should do etc but big difference to get a car under 50 secs from a 51secs for example. Like drag racing and running 11 secs and then trying to do 10.5 only half a second but.

Maybe none of these GTR drivers can drive but I think they can. Warren Luff drove a GTS-T as on Serious Performance Video No 5. The car had around 180kw at wheels so had a lot of mods including whiteline suspension etc did a 51 with Warren driving, which was the fastest. With Warren driving Barry's standard GTS-T with 17 inch wheels did a 55.6.

Duncan is your GTS-T stock thing? runs semi slicks not the standard bike tyres, and suspension or stock, stock? Also re times it needs to be properly timed not just a mate with a stop watch. Was your 51 at oneof our days? Hey Duncan you might do a 47 sec or better in my car?

Goes to show a good driver with better tyres even in sort of standard car can beat modified cars. Moding cars is a whole new story as not just always better unless done right. Bigger turbo's can be better but not always.

Yes my zed has standard actually second hand .54 AR exhaust housings and manuals have .63 exh which are another 20 or so hp. My zed does have lots fo mods though including extrusion honed plenum and larger throttle bodies etc The car is not registered but keep fishing. OK I give up, if you want me to say at UAS we do some real trick stuff and get boats to beat GTR's and I am an unreal driver as well?

[akira]

Originally posted by Duncan

haha john, you're stirring everyone up here.

I'm sure a stock GTR can get around OP South in under 50 sec, I've done 51 flat in my stock GTST.  And the combined touring (production cars) are doing .51s (commodores, the gtr hasn't done south circuit yet)

If anyone's got a GTR to lend, I'll give it a go.....

*cough* akira *cough*

only if U leave Kel as a security deposit... ..lol

But seriously,

is it so hard to beleive that an old man driving a Zed can cut such good lap times???

I hope that I can be going as Fast and Furious when im Boosted Zeds age....

[Chili]

:alien: :shake:

"is it so hard to beleive that an old man driving a Zed can cut such good lap times??? "

You think he's old!!!.....Wait till you see me!!.......I can deliver a death-dealing blow with my Walking Frame.

Forgive them son of rajab, for they know not of which they speak. :bahaha:

It'll be a great day for the Tow-truck boys, the day this sub 50secs gets contested.

Please don't start before I get my camera(and my Rocking-chair)

[Boosted Zed]

Sounds like some beer talk or maybe the V drink is flowing. The bull stops when it's track time. After running four track days at Oran I have never seen a GTR do less than 50 secs with out lots of mods and top driver, and very few do that. GTS-T never has done this or even close. I know one of our customers came out once who is a very good driver and in his 97 GTR with boost, big wheels yet road tyres and suspension mods did a 50.75 sec. Duncan I know you are good driver yet can't see 51 secs anywhere? Actual times as per below shows you did a 53.21? Which is very good time and big improvement on earlier year where you did a 55.20. Long way from 51 must have been a huge tail wind or a mate timing?

Healthy reving up and challenging is a good thing keep going might get a few out to the track instead of behind their keyboards.

Check out these times from our last Oran day and keep in mind the best time being Bruces GT3 with race exhaust and suspension and cage not sure what else. It was actually Warren Luff driving which we forgot to tell time keeper and they just see a helmet go past.

UAS Track Day August 3, 2003

Car Driver Entrant Vehicle Cap CL Qualify...Lap Gap

1 10 Bruce Jones Porsche GT3 1 S2 0:47.5410*

2 37 Gary Burchett GTR R32 1 S2 0:48.7290 0:01.1880

3 27 Geoff Fear 32GTR 1 S1 0:49.1840 0:01.6430

4 19 Glenn Martin EVO VI RS 3 S1 0:49.7760 0:02.2350

5 36 Warren Luff 300ZX 2 S1 0:50.1320 0:02.5910

6 38 Joe Evans GTR 1 S2 0:50.1790 0:02.6380

7 1 John Penlington 300ZX 2 S1 0:50.2770 0:02.7360

8 32 Jason Appleton Skyline R33 1 S1 0:50.4750 0:02.9340

9 20 Nathan Lee Mazda RX7 2 S2 0:51.2170 0:03.6760

10 12 David Baxter MR2 3 S1 0:51.2270 0:03.6860

11 7 Gerard Manion Silvia S15 3 S1 0:51.5220 0:03.9810

12 33 Stephen Struyk R33 GTR 1 S2 0:52.2880 0:04.7470

13 11 Gary Baxter MR2 3 S1 0:52.3480 0:04.8070

14 29 Norm Campbell R32 GTR 1 S2 0:53.1030 0:05.5620

15 5 Len Evans R32 GTR 1 S2 0:53.1910 0:05.6500

16 35 Duncan Handley GTST Skyline 1 S1 0:53.2180 0:05.6770

17 23 Sam Franco 300ZX 2 S1 0:54.0860 0:06.5450

18 31 Mark Croudace BMW 3 S1 0:55.0930 0:07.5520

19 16 Andrew Stewart 200SX S14 3 S1 0:55.2940 0:07.7530

20 21 Gordon Camilleri MR2 3 S2 0:55.5860 0:08.0450

21 22 Jordan Szoko 180 SX 3 S1 0:55.9920 0:08.4510

22 4 Anthony Bilie Silvia S13 3 S2 0:56.1800 0:08.6390

23 2 Chris Manning 180 SX 3 S2 0:56.5410 0:09.0000

24 13 Andrew McIntosh R32 GTST 2 S1 0:56.8960 0:09.3550

25 17 Alex Manol 300ZX 2 S2 0:57.0970 0:09.5560

26 30 Craig Spiteri Sprinter 1 S1 0:58.1910 0:10.6500

27 3 Graeme Manning 180 SX 3 S2 0:58.5340 0:10.9930

28 18 James Crisp Silvia S12 3 S2 0:58.9480 0:11.4070

29 34 Glen Hunter R31 Skyline 1 S1 0:59.9840 0:12.4430

30 24 Kristian Han**** Supra 2 S1 0:59.9950 0:12.4540

Fastest Lap Av.Speed Is 148kph

R=under lap record by greatest margin, r=under lap record, *=fastest lap time

UNIQUE AUTOSPORTS TRACK DAY

ORAN PARK - SYDNEY

1/10/01

Unique Autosports

QUALIFYING COMBINED P1 P2 P3 P4 P5 P6

Qualifying

Pos Car Driver Entrant Vehicle Cap CL Qualify...Lap Gap

1 37 Paul Brell Paul Brell MX5 2WD 4 P6 0:48.11*

2 1 Geoff Fear Geoff Fear 32 GTR 4WD GTR P5 0:48.78 0:00.67

3 8 Graeme Pearce Graeme Pearce Supra 2WD 6 P5 0:48.99 0:00.88

4 28 Graeme Watts Graeme Watts RX3 2WD 4 P6 0:49.00 0:00.89

5 15 Jason Appleton Jason Appleton GTR 4WD GTR P5 0:49.21 0:01.10

6 42 Darren Appleton Darren Appleton 180SX 2WD 4 P6 0:49.87 0:01.76

7 40 Terry Nicolosi Terry Nicolosi 32 GTR 4WD GTR P5 0:50.20 0:02.09

8 62 Warren Luff Warren Luff Commodore 2WD 6 P6 0:50.42 0:02.31

9 43 John Drysdale John Drysdale GTR 33 4WD GTR P2 0:50.75 0:02.64

10 39 Melissa Jenson Melissa Jenson Nissan 180sx 2WD 4 P5 0:51.36 0:03.25

11 31 Andrew Suvajac Andrew Suvajac 200 SX 2WD 4 P6 0:51.80 0:03.69

12 13 Greg Hosken Greg Hosken MX5 2WD 4 P4 0:52.45 0:04.34

13 18 David Rusden David Rusden GTR 4WD GTR P5 0:52.73 0:04.62

14 4 Jason Howitt Jason Howitt GTR 4WD GTR P6 0:52.73 0:04.62

15 21 Carl Ronning Carl Ronning GTR R34 4WD GTR P2 0:53.44 0:05.33

16 11 Nick Carr Nick Carr GTR 4WD GTR P5 0:53.71 0:05.60

17 38 Raymond Morsingh Raymond Morsingh MR2 2WD 4 P6 0:54.87 0:06.76

18 5 Jason Williams Jason Williams WRX 4WD 4 P4 0:55.09 0:06.98

19 9 Duncan Handley Duncan Handley GTS 2WD 6 P3 0:55.20 0:07.09

20 10 Rob Griffin Rob Griffin WRX 4WD 4 P4 0:55.20 0:07.09

21 47 David Perry David Perry GTR 4WD GTR P5 0:55.20 0:07.09

22 7 Richard Whitehead Richard Whitehead 300ZX 2WD 6 P3 0:55.26 0:07.15

23 33 Darren Darren GTS 2WD 6 P3 0:55.42 0:07.31

24 14 Phillip Lee Phillip Lee GTR 4WD GTR P5 0:55.42 0:07.31

25 23 Kerry Chilcott Kerry Chilcott 300SX TT 2WD 6 P6 0:55.47 0:07.36

26 29 Micah Burge Micah Burge GTS T 2WD 6 P3 0:55.81 0:07.70

27 32 Oli Spada Oli Spada WRX 4WD 4 P4 0:55.91 0:07.80

28 44 Tim McMurray Tim McMurray Mirage 2WD 4 P1 0:56.30 0:08.19

29 35 Warren Ambrose Warren Ambrose EP82 Starlet 2WD 4 P1 0:56.35 0:08.24

30 12 Julie Di Prinzio Julie Di Prinzio 180SX 2WD 4 P4 0:56.41 0:08.30

31 36 Tony Tomevski/Zoran Tony Tomevski/Zoran R33 GTS T 2WD 6 P5 0:56.52 0:08.41

32 3 Simon Mackie Simon Mackie 33 GTS 2WD 6 P3 0:56.62 0:08.51

33 27 Nathan Kinross Nathan Kinross Skyline GTS T 2WD 6 P3 0:56.74 0:08.63

34 19 Mark Smith Mark Smith Nissan 180SX 2WD 4 P4 0:56.80 0:08.69

35 46 Paul Fourie Paul Fourie GTS 2WD 6 P3 0:57.12 0:09.01

36 45 John Krinitos John Krinitos 200SX 2WD 4 P4 0:57.12 0:09.01

37 26 Mark Hawkins Mark Hawkins GTR 4WD GTR P3 0:57.34 0:09.23

38 2 John Hanna John Hanna 180 SX 2WD 4 P1 0:57.95 0:09.84

39 41 Gavin Chester Gavin Chester Toyota Sprinter 2WD 4 P4 1:01.57 0:13.46

[Chili]

Originally posted by Blitz

Here Here! :uh-huh:

WHERE?.....WHERE?

[Chili]

Originally posted by vspecv

was johns time done with anchor onboard or not.

now that johns stroked his ego,someone go out and kick his ass

Please be advised, that after careful checking of the Eligibility Lists, your name WAS NOT found under the "excluded challengers" heading.

Your early arrival is anticipated.:burnout:

[vspecv]

Originally posted by Chili

Please be advised, that after careful checking of the Eligibility Lists, your name WAS NOT found under the "excluded challengers" heading.

Your early arrival is anticipated.:burnout:

sorry mate,i think u got confused,shouldnt you be here.

http://www.aus300zx.com/

[Duncan]

Originally posted by Boosted Zed

Actual times as per below shows you did a 53.21...Long way from 51 must have been a huge tail wind or a mate timing?

heh, them's fighting words....53 was with an open diff and stuffed back tyres....51 was at the Peter Findlay race training, and there were 12 skylines and silvias there to back up that time.

I'll be in this, let me know when we're heading down to kick some modded zed butt

[gjb977]

Boosted ZED (Lohn) - Great time mate...

[benm]

C'mon Dundan do it for us GTS-T boys

[Boosted Zed]

You and your Skyline must be a freak as faster than Warren Luffs times if real? Even if was a 51 something still daylight off low 48s or make that 47's next time out or I will give it away.

Does anyone happen to know when there is another day at Oran with proper timing equip, not Akira with a stop watch? This will be lots of fun and interesting. Bring it on Duncan, or any of you guys that want to step out from behind your key boards and have a go. Duncan I don't know how you plan or dream of beating the fat slot car, as last time out your Skyline was miles off the ZED pace at Eastern Creek? You might need to go to the air force auctions and buy one of those jet thrusters they use on the hercs and get some strong roof racks.

Is it cheating to have a V on tap in the my zed, you know one of those clear plastic hoses?

[Blitz]

Originally posted by Chili

WHERE?.....WHERE?

Everyone clap for the lamer.

Someone step up to the plate and do some damage to Johns ego.

Akira - looks like your in the hot seat

[Chili]

Originally posted by vspecv

sorry mate,i think u got confused,shouldnt you be here.

http://www.aus300zx.com/

Hey, that's what I thought too, but I was there (until I made a complimentary remark about Skylines) and they said I belonged here.:alien:

[Roy]

Those times with Luff behind the wheel of the BD4s/Whiteline R33 was using road tyres... around a place like Oran park i think tyres would be a more valuable mod then susp work by itslef with normal road rubber.

Forget Oran Park... out of interest what are your lap times around Eastern Creek. Next time out im hoping on improving on my 1:56s which was done with a passenger, road rubber and std turbo/boost and speed limiter down the straight.

Next visit i will have the TD06 on song, no speed limiter, no passenger and hopefully race rubber...Im hoping to get down to 1:52s, and with a bit more familiarity with new braking points etc over the next few visits further drop times into the 1:50s or under.

Still doesnt compare to many ohters but will mean a 15second improvement in lap speeds since my first time at EC

[B-Man]

Hey Roy - I've been on a 1:58ish lap around EC with Majanal - and knocking 8 seconds off that is somehting I want to see. So serious - let me know when you are going out - I'm not doubting you BTW - I would really like to see that - or even be a passenger. More adrenalin rush when you are not in control..... Yeah I'm sic.

[Roy]

Dans the man when it comes to entertaining passengers:D

If he stopped punting the thing sideways around every 2nd corner (i do believe last track day it was close to every corner;) ) who knows what lap times he could punch out.

I cant punt cars sideways/drift like Dan and Pete so i just stroll around seeing if i can improve my lap times, or more like seeing if i can buy some lap times.

[DoughBoy]

Roy, if my wheels will fit under your guards more than welcome to use them. There's some satisfaction to be gained by seeing a car 1/5th the price of others whooping them around a track.....

[Roy]

I suppose we can use some tin snips to flare the guards...then i might be half a chance:(

Bring it on Duncan, or any of you guys that want to step out from behind your key boards and have a go.

I can think of a certain blue GTR that would put an end to all this Skyline abuse, but then the flaming about how modified it is will start... so why bother:rolleyes:

[Zedzilla]

Well either hit it out of the park or go down swinging.. unquote.

How about John races the mysterious blue GTR and to compare some more apples I'll race you in your GTS-t??

Not starting a flame, I love GTRS and GTS-T's but I'm loving the Zeds five minutes of fame:D

Cheers, Zedzilla