Car Crushing To Go Ahead

[Import S13]

You're seeing things too much in black and white. I ain't giving up any freedom ... because I won't be caught hooning ... I won't run from cops ... I won't put my life or others at risk ... I won't be a dickhead like the others who these laws are aimed at. I have nothing to worry about. I won't be doing anything wrong, and I won't have any of the toys crushed

Hands up those who have lost close ones as a result of hoons! Well my hand goes up three fold. I support these kind of laws, when used correctly and unabused. I might still have some good friends alive today if these laws were in effect.

Listening to the young and stupid (Rhys) whinge about violation of rights this, police state that, gets on my nerves when it is plainly obvious something needs to be done. If you won't lift your right foot off that pedal, the cops will do it for you. Use your brains.

And you talk about loss of freedom. Hoons have already traded their freedom for paranoia.

how is it black and white? i and many others have given plenty of different views and different directions in the way that the government can go about this.

you say you have nothing to worry about because you wont be cought hooning. with some of the things i've seen you write like, 'carving up traffic' 'going for a spirited hills ride' etc all relating to you on your bike. i can understand that you can choose your time and place but please dont preach model citizen to everyone while you hoon around on your bike.

clearly, people need to be more education about driving before even being able to set foot on public roads. so noone is saying that nothing needs to be done. i see alot of middle aged drivers who are worse then alot of P platers.

if these rules where around years ago, i dont think the people who took the life of your mates would have changed their mind on what they did. clearly, they knew they could injure someone with their hooning as you put it and they did something worse then getting their car crushed and have to live with the fact that they took a life.

also, what you need to do is LISTEN to the young (and stupid, as you said). let them have their say. why should the older generation faze out the younger ones. this is what really gets on my nerves. people who are so set on their ways that they dont see the bigger picture.

for years now, people have been saying something needs to be done. so what happens? harsher penalties! what should happen is harsher training! how do you get good at something? you learn, you train and you become better! half a year clearly isnt long enough and the training that you get is shithouse!

for our last comment, 'And you talk about loss of freedom. Hoons have already traded their freedom for paranoia.' i dont understand, are you calling peolpe who have a different point of view a hoon? and also, i have lost a mate to 'hoon' behavior and i still think this is a bad way around it.

please dont take any of this as a personal stab, it's hard to word things without sounding like im pissed off through typing.

[Inline 6]

thats pretty deep for 2am kye

it aint black n white its black n blue, he got jdm mesh deff hoon

im confused where i lay, am i still young hoon or old hypocrite i need to know so i know which team to bat for.

unlike at the clubs where i bat for both teams

Edited June 20, 2009 by Inline 6

[Mayuri Krab]

what they are designed to do, and what they will be used for are 2 completely different things.

technically the defect system is designed to keep unsafe cars off the road, instead it is a useful tool for police to crack down on target groups, one being imports.

Exactly! Technically, this crushing cars idea will work, but that's in a perfect world. We don't live in one of those and these given powers will be abused at some point down the line

Totally agree with these guys.

I support this whole crushing of a hoon's car. In theory.

But then in theory, Communism works too...

I'll eat my own words if I see they go ahead & crush some over-sized 4x4s driven by soccer mums whom I see doing "reckless" driving on a daily basis.

[typevu]

for years now, people have been saying something needs to be done. so what happens? harsher penalties! what should happen is harsher training! how do you get good at something? you learn, you train and you become better! half a year clearly isnt long enough and the training that you get is shithouse!

Apparently the only way to train someone nowadays is to hardly train them at all until they do something wrong and then throw the book at them with everything under the law.

The elderly drives way below the speed limit, does not take notice of anyone else on the road unless your infront of them or as they're merging into you, anything that looks like its going slightly faster than them it doesnt register into their head and they get spooked.

Soccer mums are the only cars on the road - it doesnt register into their head that there are other cars around them, indicating is optional.

[RubyRS4]

I believe in driver training ... but on the other side of the coin, the hoons know what they're doing wrong. They know doing skids and getting your car sideways and drag racing is illegal. You don't need extra training to tell you that.

I believe the licensing system should be set out similar to the Rider Safe scheme for motorcyclists. L and P platers are limited to 4 cylinder NA cars restricted by power to weight. When they get their full licence they go thru an advanced driver training test, but are still restricted to Na cars until (say) a 2 year period. Then they must complete another advance driver training course to get a turbo, V8, rotary whatever.

I speak english and I've used small enough words in the hope some would understand. I'm tired of repeating myself and talking to stupid people, so I'm done with this topic. Selfishness prevails over commonsense

Edited June 21, 2009 by RubyRS4

[kralster]

Yeah ruby because going from a 20hp cb250 to a 160hp cbr1000 is a safe step if you are on your L's and P's long enough...

[Import S13]

clearly, people need to be more education about driving before even being able to set foot on public roads. so noone is saying that nothing needs to be done. i see alot of middle aged drivers who are worse then alot of P platers.

I believe in driver training ... but on the other side of the coin, the hoons know what they're doing wrong. They know doing skids and getting your car sideways and drag racing is illegal. You don't need extra training to tell you that.

CLEARLY, I didn't just say training is the only way to go. Training will help in alot of different situations in case of an emergency where they will need to correct an error, which we ALL make at times.

I used the word 'Education' in meaning, teaching them what's wrong and right. Sounds childesh, but some of these people need it to get into their heards and be shown pictures and what could happen if they choose to make those mistakes.

With harsher training and education, I would make NO objections to harsher penalties.

I speak english and I've used small enough words in the hope some would understand. I'm tired of repeating myself and talking to stupid people, so I'm done with this topic. Selfishness prevails over commonsense

I thought that I have done the same. Made everything I said simple and straight to the point and didn't make any insults towards anyone yet being called stupid and selfish I'm still trying to make a civil conversation.

Your not listening to others Ruby. Your just looking at letters and words on a computer screen and getting frustrated as you think noones taking note of what your saying. Some people on here ARE being abit immature and not really wording what they say like they should be. Just except criticism towards a topic, everyone has their own opinion and I accept yours, why dont you accept others?

cheers

Edited June 21, 2009 by Import S13

[Dohmar]

Your not listening to others Ruby. Your just looking at letters and words on a computer screen and getting frustrated as you think noones taking note of what your saying. Some people on here ARE being abit immature and not really wording what they say like they should be. Just except criticism towards a topic, everyone has their own opinion and I except yours, why dont you except others?

I think he means accept, not except.

;0

-D

[Import S13]

yeah, woops. fixed now!

i shouldnt stay up past my bed time. i get grumpy and illiterate

[chops]

This is all interesting debate, ranging from defects to what is hooning etc.

An interesting viewpoint occurred to me recently.

We live in what is essentially a democracy, where majority rules - or so it is believed.

90% of people drive stock, unmodified vehicles.

90% of people want modified and high powered vehicles off the roads, for whatever reason.

It is really only a matter of time before we are at the stage where you can't do ANYTHING to a street car.

I'm sure the laws will get tighter and tighter over the coming years until we arrive at this finality.

[Rocky88]

Even if the law was ever passed in this country (which it won't be for the reasons given earlier) crushing will be an absolute last resort and only to the repeat offenders.....not for squealing a tyre on a white line.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/local/5699956...acing-criminal/

told ya

The new laws will come into effect later this year.

[scandyflick]

want to know how to avoid having your car crushed?

dont drag race down magill road.

Edited July 3, 2009 by scandyflick

[Rocky88]

lol @ journalist reading out the fast and the furious plot on abc radio this morning

[Inline 6]

that movie didnt have a plot

[FOOLBOOST]

Tonight ch 9 at 6pm news is gonna have the hoon racing

[mid life crisis]

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ok about n hour ago i got pulled over for making unessacery wheel noise, driving without control and exceeding the speedlimit i was going 80 in a 60 zone

ok well im on my ps n i had only 2 demerit points left i know im probably going to lose my license but is making unessacery wheel noise and driving without control a demerit point loss or not because if they send me a letter saying ive lost my liceanse for speeding

then cant i take it to court n say were is the proof that i was going 80 like one cop just pulled me over n said yer you were speeding which i wasnt i just gotta little bit off wheelspin out of a corner thats what the unessacery wheel noise is n driving without control is for but i dont reckon i was going 80 lol

this may sound stupid but i just want to know what u guys think.........

i think we could sacrifice this clowns car as a sign of goodwill to the police

[SLAPS]

Tonight ch 9 at 6pm news is gonna have the hoon racing

checked the vid out.

Damn media monkeys. The audio is clearly altered lol.

Grab a vid of taking off next to a cop car and alter the audio lol. The media are idiots.

[Rocky88]

that movie didnt have a plot

nah, thats a better version. its got paul walker and vin diesel drag racing on north terrace lol. no joke, thats what some retarded journalist read out on abc radio this morning.

Edited July 3, 2009 by Rocky88

[SLED]

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/local/5699956...acing-criminal/

told ya

We'll see when the new laws do come out Rok......I can see legislation being passed to criminalize the behaviour but crushing a car that belongs to a finance company????.....aint gonna happen.

....and you'll owe me that beer, LOL.

[heslo]

...but crushing a car that belongs to a finance company????.....aint gonna happen.

BINGO Pete!

End of thread I say