Commy S vs Astra SRi Turbo vs Golf GTi

[dale]

yo all im looking at these 3 cars to buy brand new 2003 models im wondering which would be the best buy for looks and performance they are all around 36-37k new. Vote in the poll or write your opinions on each thanks!

A) Holden Commodore S 3.4L i think

B) Holden Astra SRi Turbo 2.0L T

C) Volkswagen GTi (Turbo) 1.8L T

These cars only due to circumstances no skyline allowed thanks (dont ask)

[Pva_Glue]

is VW 4WD?

is that one with 4WD Golf GTiR32W engine?

[Maxx]

Fwd i think, with the same engine/chassis of audi A3 1.8T.

[riggaP]

I voted for the VW but after having a think, the Astra convertible turbs would probably be better :uh-huh:

[Guest INASNT]

The commo is still using the pushrod 80 buick 3.6 aint they?

The VW GTI has only got around 110kw even tho its turbo.

The astra turb convertable would be the go.

[predator]

why are you asking this on a skyline forum????

they're all slow.. why bother with half a turbo? insurance will be really expensive still. Just get an n/a version.

[japtaxi]

as I have a vw golf mk3 for day car, I would pick the golf gti fwd turbo.

There are plenty of euro tuners that got good results from the engine. some reported 300kw at fly with metal gasket stock bottom end. (pfff that all? )

This will get you started..

http://www.goapr.com.au/

Althought Astra turbo is relatively new in australia, shouldn't take people very long to start tuning them to get some good power too.

Oh yeah don't forget to check the insurance, very expensive even for N/A euro cars.

[pentae]

I agree.. this thread is dumb. All of those cars suck. This is the wrong forum to be asking in

With that said I voted the Golf. If the SRi Turbo was a convertable i'd vote that.

[Boostzor]

Id have to agree with Pred here.

If i were you id get a vectra v6 or something along those lines.

That said, cant go past 3 nice little leters G....T....i

[riggaP]

Pred and pantae said

This is a Skyline forum

Get over yourselves. Skylines arnt the only cars in the world. Lots of us drive other cars also.

I was thinkin last night, give the Astra 15 years and it will surely become the next Gimini.

[Sonic]

Driven the Astra and it'll leave a stock S15 behind down a straight or through the corners, no fear. WRXs need to watch out as well 'cause the little Opel's are effing quick.

VW GTi is a soft chassis and is more a cafe-latte poser's car.

Commodore S... You got a family or something? Can't afford an SV8?

Personal pick would be the Astra Turbs. Beaut car, will be a hero car in years to come...

[Maxx]

not much potenial of astra tubro as it runs 14 or 15 psi standand!!

golf gti for sure:uh-huh:

[HSVKLR]

Would've voted for the Astra SRi Turbo had it not have been for my experience with it at the Motor Show on monday.

I walked over to it and a bloke had just got out of it and when he closed the door the ext rear view mirror fell off. D'oh!

Then my dad sat in it and the seat height adjuster broke off in his hand. D'oh.

Then the final straw - when i tried to pop the bonnet we spent 5 mins trying to locate the bonnet release..... we didnt find it.

Pitiful.

Btw 0-100km/h in 7.2s

0-400m = 15.2s

Therefore not 200SX beating times. Around a track, it couldnt even dust its rival, Renault Clio Sport (in Bang for Bucks Motor magazine - the comp which it won - deservedly)

[dale]

yo thanks for ur help but the poll says 11 for astra sri turbo (non convertable) and 11 for the golf gti im not sure which one to go for due to the class of the gti and the uglyness of the astra heh need more ppl to vote to help me out! thanks all

[Richelieu]

Opel for the chassis. VWs have poor handling and brakes.

Factory claimed figures are rarely accurate because some manufacturers carry out the tests with half a tank of fuel and a passenger. And straight line figures don't mean shit. Its when you get to the twisties that it counts, oh, and daily drivability. Look for an overall package not just power.

And for all of you who doubt front wheel drive naturally aspirated cars, go check out the french film TAXI.

[nissaner]

Originally posted by Richelieu

And for all of you who doubt front wheel drive naturally aspirated cars, go check out the french film TAXI.

u said it urself... keyword is "film" ...

and BACKUP, i don't think u can buy a brand new astra turbo for 36k ?? our dealership don't sell it for that cheap anyway... (convertible looks crap!!! go for the hatch version at least... and if u want finance, pm me... :uh-huh: )

ps : actually, let me rephrase it... if u want ur finance to be arranged by our finance company, pm me... (my last comment sounded like as if i was gonna donate some $$$ towards ur new car :bahaha: )

[predator]

Btw 0-100km/h in 7.2s  

0-400m = 15.2s  

Therefore not 200SX beating times. Around a track, it couldnt even dust its rival, Renault Clio Sport (in Bang for Bucks Motor magazine - the comp which it won - deservedly)

Thats what I was trying to get at really, that while some of these may have a "turbo" its really only for show and a bit of marketing if you ask me, not really "power" factor. Especially the extra price you're paying over an n/a version, is it really worth it? Sure you get leather seats and things, but really. And the price of the Astra Turbo kicking it at around $40k, there would be plenty of other things i'd be considering around that price range. If its brand new and factory warranty, there isn't crap you can do to it anyhow until the warranty has worn off. So unless you're happy with the stock figures, you're up the creek.

Its interesting how Holden doesn't publish any 0-100 or 1/4 times on its website anymore for their cars, they used to I remember.

[dAVE]

how long has the GTi been turbo for... last one i drove would have been a 2001 model.. maybe even driven a 2002, not sure... but i never remember them being turbs.

[dAVE]

well ill eat my own words... seems as if the GTi has been the same since 99, so the GTi's I have driven were turbo... felt slower than my old proton GTi.. hmm