R33 S2 Gts25t To Gtr

[KwS]

Okay, this is something i have been wondering, ever since i got my car. Its a 97 Series 2 GTS25T coupe. It was cheap, so im not about to go selling it to buy an R33 GTR, which still cost about 25-30k over here.

What i want to know, is if i imported a cheap 33 GTR donor car from jappas, could i essentually convert my car to be a GTR (without the wide rear guards, unless i want to cut and weld obviously)? I know it can be done on the likes of GTS4's, very easily, but a RWD 33?

I cant see why it wouldnt work, because the main differences are in the mechanicals, not the floor pan. So it still uses the same rear diff mounting, and driveshaft mountings. The main differences would be in having to swap the front subframe over to suit the 4wd system.

The wiring and interior arent an issue, as it would be a full donor car so i would just change the whole loom over.

If it can work, i could very well have a road registered GTR for 15-18k all up (including price of my GTS25T).

And yes, i know... it still wouldnt be a 'GTR'.... but i dont care.

Edited June 24, 2009 by KwS

[bozodos]

Well I dunno about whether the GT-R box would physically fit into the GTS-T's trans tunnel for example? It sounds like another one of those things that isn't really worth the time or effort. I imagine you'd have to change all the suspension around too due to it now becoming front heavy...

[KamikazeNinja34]

Okay, this is something i have been wondering, ever since i got my car. Its a 97 Series 2 GTS25T coupe. It was cheap, so im not about to go selling it to buy an R33 GTR, which still cost about 25-30k over here.

What i want to know, is if i imported a cheap 33 GTR donor car from jappas, could i essentually convert my car to be a GTR (without the wide rear guards, unless i want to cut and weld obviously)? I know it can be done on the likes of GTS4's, very easily, but a RWD 33?

I cant see why it wouldnt work, because the main differences are in the mechanicals, not the floor pan. So it still uses the same rear diff mounting, and driveshaft mountings. The main differences would be in having to swap the front subframe over to suit the 4wd system.

The wiring and interior arent an issue, as it would be a full donor car so i would just change the whole loom over.

If it can work, i could very well have a road registered GTR for 15-18k all up (including price of my GTS25T).

And yes, i know... it still wouldnt be a 'GTR'.... but i dont care.

My moral objections to what youre proposing aside...

'cheap donor car from japan'...a cheap 33 GTR even from japan is a stretch. Any GTR you could import from Japan for a cheap price (even with everyones dollar not being particularly strong)...for one, the engine is probably tired and not worth having anyway, and so on and so forth...If you want a GT-R...its probably worth just buying one. They are worth what theyre worth...even in Japan.

[KamikazeNinja34]

Well I dunno about whether the GT-R box would physically fit into the GTS-T's trans tunnel for example? It sounds like another one of those things that isn't really worth the time or effort. I imagine you'd have to change all the suspension around too due to it now becoming front heavy...

And what he said ^

Theyre not exactly the same car. Ive seen an RB26 put into a GTST before and it required all sorts of engineering and stuff to make it work.

[bozodos]

Yeah theres a shitload of different little parts involved, I imagine you could strip the entire donor car, but then it kinda defeats the purpose of doing so unless you had some uber awesome body / interior to put it into lol. You'd be best off with a RWD RB26

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

You want to put in a RB26DETT in your R33 GTS-T?

Gearbox, drivetrain, 4WD System... everything..?

[KwS]

You want to put in a RB26DETT in your R33 GTS-T?

Gearbox, drivetrain, 4WD System... everything..?

correct.

its gets done in R32s, but havent seen it done in a 33

[bozodos]

Much easier in a R32 though - you've already got 5stud and turbo brakes + ATTESSA already in there, all you needa do is change the loom + wiring, could probably get away with original Gbox too.

There's still a lot of minor differences, like the bonnet, suspension mounting, diff, driveshaft (I think), and a whole bunch of the suspension components. You also don't have the pumped guards.

[eeiko321]

You want to put in a RB26DETT in your R33 GTS-T?

Gearbox, drivetrain, 4WD System... everything..?

yes the PUMPED guards are very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very IMPORTANT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL

thats what makes it a GT-R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KwS]

Much easier in a R32 though - you've already got 5stud and turbo brakes + ATTESSA already in there, all you needa do is change the loom + wiring, could probably get away with original Gbox too.

There's still a lot of minor differences, like the bonnet, suspension mounting, diff, driveshaft (I think), and a whole bunch of the suspension components. You also don't have the pumped guards.

My 33 still has turbo brakes, and 5 stud, being the 25T and all.

I do, actually think its in the too hard basket now.... better off saving the money i would've used for the conversion, converting my car to manual, selling it, and then i should have enough to buy a genuine GTR in the first place.

Just thinking of all the stuff that needs to be transplanted, like the attessa hoses etc. The wiring isnt too bad, but i bet there isnt mounting holes etc for the g sensor and other little gtr specific bits.

The trans tunnel could very well be bigger on a GTR too, seeing as the rear guards are different, that means that anything else in the shell could be different too.

Would've been a cool project though.

Still, if anyone has been it done before, im still interested to know if its possible.

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

correct.

its gets done in R32s, but havent seen it done in a 33

Much easier in a R32 though - you've already got 5stud and turbo brakes + ATTESSA already in there, all you needa do is change the loom + wiring, could probably get away with original Gbox too.

There's still a lot of minor differences, like the bonnet, suspension mounting, diff, driveshaft (I think), and a whole bunch of the suspension components. You also don't have the pumped guards.

How do you mean much easier in a R32? R33 came with RB26DETT's as well...

SAU member DSTROY has done a RB26 conversion in his R32 GTS-4 (GTS-T with 4WD), so it is basically a R32 GTR but in a R32 GTS-T body.

The conversion can be done but a lot of time and effort will be needed + Cash!

yes the PUMPED guards are very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very IMPORTANT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL

thats what makes it a GT-R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO!

eeiko321 is at it again!

[R31Nismoid]

It's never cheaper.

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