Cheap Doof Doof Plz

[Wacky Dee]

well ..I've been to the pros and I know how much a decent setup costs (close to $2k for entrylevel) but I just can't see it happening any time soon due to lack of funds..

In the meantime .. I have no doof doof whatsoever (BASS) so I was wondering if it's actually POSSIBLE to get some friggin bass for under $500 ? As in mono amp ..(just for the sub) and cabling for the sub ..

I'm OK with the quality of my fronts and tweeters for now but I HAVE NO FRIGGIN BASS GODDAMMIT! I had my front doors done properly with dynamat and decent fronts/tweeters but the whole thing is still just running off a $150 headunit and I HAVE NO BASS GOD DAMMNIT!!!

anyway .. am I totally barking up the wrong tree or is it even remotely feasible to have an elcheapo (BUT NOT NASTY) sub/enclosure put in my boot with a non-nasty but cheap monoamp so that I can have SO GOD DAMN BASS!?!@? I realize I won't get anything special but I just want to hear some friggin bass when I play my music

Would heavy guage cabling just for the sub suffice if I only want a monoamp to power the sub or do I HAVE TO upgrade all my speakers cabling? I'm happy to run the fronts off the shitty kenwood headunit JUST WANT SOME DAMN DOOF DOOF

Ok before I emberass myself anymore in this drunken state I shall leave you with those questions to ponder on and please put the flamethrowers away I KNOW how much it costs to do the whole shebang properly I just cant afford it and the lack of doof-doof is driving me nuts its like listening to an IPOD

[bozodos]

I'm probably going to get flamed by all the car audio lovers on here, but Rampage branded subs from Supercheap go pretty good or even try buying one of those ebay sub + amp + wiring kits which are like 120 for the lot lol.

[hypo32]

For $500 you can get a decent amp and sub combo.

Pm me if you like ill hook you up with some Kicker gear and install.

[Wacky Dee]

hey charlie where abouts are ya? do you sell audio gear or work in the indust at all ? I'll give you a call next week sometime would love to get some bass pumping soon.. I wouldnt mind 2nd hand gear at all as long as its not dodgy and works as I can probably get better stuff that way ..ie someones whos upgrading from entry level 'good shit' and wants to get rid of their amp/sub

Edited July 1, 2009 by Delta Force

[Wacky Dee]

guys when i install a sub with a mono amp I don't need any special (heavy gauge) wiring for anything but the sub/amp right ?? I just dont wanna melt my electrical system

[Joe Bellissimo]

4 or 8 gauge is enough depending on how powerful the amplifier is.

[astrotristan]

boostcruising.com?

[ONE-VIA]

go to your local car audio joint fusion have the sub and amp in a tube thingy for under 500 add wiring and get the guys to install and should have some change left over

sounds not bad in a old school land rover

[Turbz RB-25]

I'm probably going to get flamed by all the car audio lovers on here, but Rampage branded subs from Supercheap go pretty good or even try buying one of those ebay sub + amp + wiring kits which are like 120 for the lot lol.

I've got 2 X 10s boxed brand new selling for $80

[Wacky Dee]

if I were to get something like this http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Pioneer-12-Sub-and-...%3A1%7C294%3A50

...it's pretty cheap, $100 so can't really go wrong because if it sounds like shit it's only $100 down the drain. But anything sounds better than no bass so ...

anyway, to my question ... How hard would it be to wire this thing in without frying my electrical system? Would a pro need to install it? What's needed ..Does it connect straight to the fuse box with a massive fuse or how's it work ?

[hypo32]

Hi Denis

Im a pro installer in the industry, i can get my hand on second hand (mostly ex demo) or new and i can organise installation.

Id recomend getting a 4ch amp and a single 12inch in a enclosure, bridge the amp to run the sub and your existing front speakers. This will give you good bass and more presence in the front to keep up with the sub.

Ill Pm you my number.

[08r3308]

chek your pm mate

there is cheap doof doof quality too

[Wacky Dee]

Hi Denis

Im a pro installer in the industry, i can get my hand on second hand (mostly ex demo) or new and i can organise installation.

Id recomend getting a 4ch amp and a single 12inch in a enclosure, bridge the amp to run the sub and your existing front speakers. This will give you good bass and more presence in the front to keep up with the sub.

Ill Pm you my number.

while I'd prefer that it blows the cost of the setup way out as all the cabling would need to be done properly .. Am leaning towards that pioneer kit on ebay, $120 and has the full wiring kit ... can't be that bad. I just want to be able to hear some bass, don't need anything better for the fronts tbh..

[Joe Bellissimo]

Hook it straight to the battery =] The fuse will prevent it from frying your electrical system. Then run a cable onto the body of your car for grounding.

That amplifier looks extremely weak. You will get sick of that very quickly unless you go out and swap your car for a hatch back .

I guess that Ebay deal could work if you just want something to fill in the bass. Just make sure you have the appropriate outputs on your head unit to use it. And do keep in mind, if its on Ebay, its on there for a reason.

[Wacky Dee]

that ebay one is 200W which is the same as what I was originally quoted for with a $2k setup from a pro shop..plus I'm not doing anything to the fronts so should be plenty of bass fill dontcha think? $100 means I can stop dreaming and have atleast something ..because my only other option for the next 6-12 months atleast is to have no bass at all

how long do you reckon it would take a pro to instal the cabling for the ebay setup? just the amp/sub? access to headunit outputs is easy..

[08r3308]

you need amp turn on cable, run rca to amp and that's from units side, then you got power and negative on amp , plus connect turn on wire and rca to amp and bridge speakers for sub and your done

should take to 30-45mins

and dont take it to your jb hi fi or strathfield to wire it trust me

[Wacky Dee]

ok all sounds very simple and I assume the wiring kit will have an inline fuse on the positive cable that goes to the amp .. just another couple of Qs please

1) how's the sub powered? Does it require its own power connection?

2) when you say 'bridge speakers for sub' what do you mean precisely

3) when I run the RCAs and power cables thru cabin should I keep the RCAs seprate from the power cables ? Will running them along the same door sill cause interference/noise ? Should I run RCAs on say passenger side and power on driver side?

Thanks

Edited July 3, 2009 by Delta Force

[08r3308]

1. you run the sub off the amp same like any speakers it requires a wire from amp to sub

2.take for example; a 2 channel amp puts out 100 x 2 rms. each channel is receiving 100 rms respectively. by bridging the amp, you are combining channels to put out 200 rms to only 1 channel

3.always keep rca separate to power wires. i usually run rca and speaker cable down passenger side and power on drivers side

in r33 its very easy as you have battery in boot so only requires a small amount of power wire

as for noise i had issue with noise being induced thru power wire for head unit , but you might be lucky . i sent you pm

hope this helps

[Wacky Dee]

yeah it does thanks .. wish 34s had the batt in the boot as well ..no mucking around with firewall. I'll get in touch next week if I get some money for the kicker sub/amp