Alligning The Power Window Motor - R33 S2

[Sparky206]

The red circle is where the accual motor is behind the panel.

The 4 green dots are the 4 screws that hold the assembly in place

The 2 red dots are the screws that control the levelness of the window

The blue circle is the alligned bolt

The 3 green circles are where the screw holes line up, in relation the the visible screws

In the first picture you can see my main problem, that is where the window stops at the fully down position. The reason that the window stops in this position is because the gear that the motor turns runs out of teeth before the window is fully down. When in the up position, there is still a further 12 spare teeth remaining on the gear, with wear marks a further 6 teeth up, leading me to assume that it has worked correctly before.

I've had the assembly out a number of times trying to make an adjustment. Ive been removing the motor and rotating the gear to the correct allignment then replacing the motor, but this is where i have a problem. When i re install the assembly into the door, i can only get one screw to line up (blue screw 2nd pic). The 3 other screws holes (green dots 2nd pic) are slightly off when compared to the screws. I cant find a way to rotate the assembly once it is in the door as its in there firm and wont budge. The only way i can adjust it is by using the motor, which then rotates the assembly until the screws line up. Problem being when i rotate it using the motor, im loosing the 6 extra teeth ive gained when i adjusted it, and i end up back where i started.

How am i able to make an adjustment to the gear so that i gain 6 teeth, without changing the alignment of the motor assembly so that i have the green screws line up when i re install the assembly?

Cheers

Edited July 13, 2009 by Sparky206

[(B1) MR_fanny]

so your running out of teeth right? reason why it doesnt go all the way down? would re fitting the motor with the window all the way up make any difference? That's how i replaced my motor last time.

[Sparky206]

Yes im running out of teeth and thats whats stopping it. Problem is that to get the 4 green screws in, the window has to be at the same position each time, otherwise they do not line up. Meaning that if i adjust it while its out, i end up having to run the motor a bit to rotate the screw holes so that they line up, then im back where i started.

it doesnt matter if the window is up or down, to get the screws to line up, the window and hence gear needs to be at the correct spot, what im looking for is how to change this spot about 6 teeth further up

[gotRICE?]

I replaced my motor recently. Best way is to undo everything so its not hooked up at all, then like you said, run the window untill you get clearance to remove whats left and re-assemble the motor correctly.

I had an issue with mine that where the glass runs through the rubber by the mirror, there is a seam in the track. For some reason the seam split and caught the rubber/glass and popped and cracked all the plastic wheels in the track.

Its not overly hard to take everything out. Just think about it and mark the adjustable areas if your unsure how they go back.

But by the sounds of it, for some reason yours has either skipped the teeth somehow, or someone put it together wrong previously?

[gotRICE?]

I just realised how incredibly difficult it is to try help with problems like this haha. Need to point and show! E-Info =

If you do get it out, for goodness sakes be CAREFUL with the tension coil. That thing randomly popped off my regulator sitting on the floor and took a chunk out of my garage floor. If it doesnt hit anything on the way, it could cause serious damage to your head, or paint job/glass. LOL

[Sparky206]

I think it has been put togeather wrongly before, judging by how rounded the screws were. I have no problems getting the assembly out, ive had it out 4 times now. Its just that any adjustment i make, means that i can not get the green screws to line up again

[Black Turbs]

I had to pull my motor out the other day as the window was stuck down. Im waiting for the replacement to arrive, but Im worried about being able to put it back together as this is my first attempt.

To take it out I undid the those 4 "green" dots from your first photo, then the 3 screws that hold the motor on. What is the easiest way to put it back together to make sure everything aligns etc.? Should I pull out the regulator out and out the motor on? Or try to put the 4 "green" screws back on then put the motor in? Im not really sure where the "green" screws screw onto! Its so hard to see whats happening in there!

Any help would be great!

[Black Turbs]

Got the motor today, will be attempting the fitting tomorrow........... any words of wisdom/help?

[Black Turbs]

All in and working.

But I think my switch on the door to control the windows may be dodgy and the reason why the motor burnt out in the first place.

Can someone tell me on there S1 R33 the drivers side switch to lower and raise the drivers window, which way do you move the switch to lower the window? On mine you pull it up towards you, which doesnt seem right, as the passengers window you push the button down (away from you).

[TALBO]

On every car I've ever seen it's always down with the switch for window down. Has yours always been this way?

The polarity is incorrect. Did you just plug the motor into the connector or did you have to wire it because there was no plug on the motor? The other possibility is you've got a LH motor and that might explain the reverse polarity, can't be sure because I haven't seen the passenger motor or regulator.

[Black Turbs]

Well I just checked the the plug again and it only goes in one way. As for the motor, Im pretty sure drivers and passengers are not interchangeable, I think they are mirror image. Plus the motor looked exactly the same.

TBH Im not sure which way the switch went because, I'd only had the car a week or so before the window played up. And the switch seemed dicky then. It does seem odd to pull the switch up to make th window go down.

[Black Turbs]

  TALBO said:

On every car I've ever seen it's always down with the switch for window down. Has yours always been this way?

The polarity is incorrect. Did you just plug the motor into the connector or did you have to wire it because there was no plug on the motor? The other possibility is you've got a LH motor and that might explain the reverse polarity, can't be sure because I haven't seen the passenger motor or regulator.

I tell you its starting to do my head in! I just checked the wires again, and they are plugged in the exact same way as the old motor was. The wires are the exact same colour aswell. I checked the passengers side motor wires and they are slightly different. So looks like it is the right motor etc. Could it be anything else, like the black box causing this? Also would a I do any damage if I tried the wires around the other way?

[TALBO]

Could be that someone's reversed the polarity of the switch then. Can't really think of any other reason why you'd have to lift the switch to make the window go down. I wouldn't reverse the wiring, see if you can find yourself a new switch from someone wrecking a 33. I think the switches (connectors) are different between S1 & S2.

[Black Turbs]

  TALBO said:

Could be that someone's reversed the polarity of the switch then. Can't really think of any other reason why you'd have to lift the switch to make the window go down. I wouldn't reverse the wiring, see if you can find yourself a new switch from someone wrecking a 33. I think the switches (connectors) are different between S1 & S2.

All good mate, I rang the bloke I got the motor from. He advised me to reverse the wires as you suggested. He said it may have been rewired wrong when it got refurbished. So I swapped the wires and it works like new! Very happy camper! Thankyou to everyone the helps on this forum!