GTR to be released in 2007

[Rezz]

Originally posted by Sonic

Yep, Renault has a majority stake in them. Those "Bloody Euros" saved Nissan's arse BIG TIME

Yahoo news quote: "Shares of Nissan, owned 44.4 percent by France's Renault (RENA.PA), fell on the recall news. The stock closed down 0.73 percent to 1,221 yen after touching a high of 1,273 yen."

44.4% isn`t a majority share...

[r33skylinegtst]

It doesn`t matter if more Yanks are going to buy a V8 GT-R than a V6 Turbo one

you said that, so i thought you meant the V35 is a V8 as well as a V6 model, which was the impression i got from one news site. Oh well, it's late, forgive my dumb posts.

[Rezz]

I said that about the Yanks because everybody in Australia seems to think that Nissan are develpoing a V8 for the next GT-R... which is *unsubstantiated* to say the least.

[incuboyd1024]

I only really like the Pontiacs over here because every Pontiac that my family or anyone I know has owned never screws up with them, they're great cars to have. At least, over here they are.

Sorry, I can't help but laugh every time someone calls us yanks 'cause when you live here only the people in New York are Yanks and everyone else is either rednecks, rebels, or punks, it's sorta funny but, that's another story. and, btw, here, everyone living in the south (alabama, mississippi, ect.) are hillbillies....Oz is south..which means.....:bahaha:

! lol

[Sonic]

Actually, what that 44% stake DOESN'T include is the fact that Renault board members own shares in Nissan, bringing the total to almost 60% (something like 59.98%)

If Nissan's new GT-R isn't a Skyline (Ghosn's said that already), then it also might start it's own designation run... X35? P35? Who the fcuck knows until Nissan says it's the... (insert letter of choice here)35

As well as this, the talk of the previously-mentioned *and unsubstantiated* dry-sumped engine might be a bit premature... According to registration officials in England, there's no way you can get a dry-sumped car road registered for every day use. That removes the English market.

Over here (in Australia) it's also extremely difficult to pass ADR laws in all states with a dry-sump motor. America might be ok (what say ye incuboy?) but who knows....

There's only a few things that have been confirmed, one of which is that the designers are adamant the next GT-R will have 4 round tail lights.

Sorry for the long post. But we can't get wrapped up in hype. Now let's just all sit down with a big cup of cocoa and sing Kumbaya

[Warpspeed]

Here in oZ the only real Australians are Aboriginal, the rest are foreigners living here. And America has been going down hill ever since it left the British Empire.

Exclusivity is not what Nissan need anyhow. They are in business to make money by selling cars, no other reason. The more cars they can sell, the better the profit.

The HRT427 was an exclusive car, only one ever built. You cannot get more exclusive than that. I doubt if that one car is going to keep Holden profitable all by itself though.

What are the technical reasons against a dry sump for road use and emissions ? I would really like to know.

[Rezz]

Originally posted by Sonic

Actually, what that 44% stake DOESN'T include is the fact that Renault board members own shares in Nissan, bringing the total to almost 60% (something like 59.98%)

If Nissan's new GT-R isn't a Skyline (Ghosn's said that already), then it also might start it's own designation run... X35? P35? Who the fcuck knows until Nissan says it's the... (insert letter of choice here)35

As well as this, the talk of the previously-mentioned *and unsubstantiated* dry-sumped engine might be a bit premature... According to registration officials in England, there's no way you can get a dry-sumped car road registered for every day use. That removes the English market.

Over here (in Australia) it's also extremely difficult to pass ADR laws in all states with a dry-sump motor. America might be ok (what say ye incuboy?) but who knows....

There's only a few things that have been confirmed, one of which is that the designers are adamant the next GT-R will have 4 round tail lights.

Hey Sonic... it`s quite easy man, just listen:

1) I correct everyone whos calling *the current Skyline* an "R"35... which, if people would like to click their mouse a few times (or maybe type "Nissan" in Google search) they`ll find that sure enough, it`s a V35.

2) As regards the new GT-R, yes I agree, they *could* use a new designation for it, but as I`ve said 5,000,000,000 times now, don`t take what Ghosn says as gospel! If he says "the GT-R is going to be a whole new car and lose it`s connection with the Skyline name", then so what? How do you know he`s not just talking about markets other than Japan? One thing I DO do is refer ONLY to the Japanese market when I post up about Skyline/Skyline GT-R stuff mmmkay?

Which brings me to 3) Dry Sumps can`t be registered in the UK? ... and ....? This is not an issue in Japan. I`m not full bottle on the Dry Sump issue, but just because Dry Sumps can`t be registered in the UK (as you say) how do you know thats going to inhibit the GT-R from being sold there? Are you saying you took one look at the "dry sump diagrams" from the New GT-R thread, and thought it was BS coz of the UK registration problem?

I`m sticking to my guns guys, I know that there (of course) is a lot of tradition here in Japan, especially when it comes to cars. They aren`t just going to DROP the Skyline name from the GT-R because Ghosn thinks it`s a good idea. They aren`t just going to develop a new engine, and not take into the account the legality of it AFTER it`s finished (ie: dry sump).

Phhhew...

[Mr. En One]

Hey Rezz Man, Im with you .

When do you think we will be able to purchase GTR 35? i.e. when will they start selling them in Japan?

[Rezz]

Originally posted by Mr. En One

Hey Rezz Man, Im with you .

When do you think we will be able to purchase GTR 35? i.e. when will they start selling them in Japan?

By all reports (and I talk to *Japanese* Industry guys too you know) the New GT-R was slated for a 8/2005 debut, but since the Tokyo Motor Show, it seems our man Carlos "Mr V8 R35 GT-R" Ghosn thinks it`s going to be 2007.

Theres a few things wrong with that. The V35 was released in 2001, and (as far as Ghosn is concerned) the GT-R variant will debut a full 6 years later? What, after the life cycle of the V35 is over?

Also, deferring the debut of the GT-R from 2005 to 2007 just so Nissan can "get it right"? Whats there to get right? They made Godzilla damn it! If you read that like I did, it seems like Ghosn is really trying to weigh heavily on the GT-R R+D team to get it how HE envisions it... whether the Japanese like it or not (read: he`s a tool).

[Mr. En One]

hmmm

Does this mean that the R32/33/34 will maintain value for a little longer now?