R33 Illegal For P's?

[MUZT3K]

hey guys i obtained my p's before july 01 2007

now i found this on vic roads. can someone please explain what the engine capacity bit means and if i can drive a r33 gts-t?

<H1 class=sIFR-replaced>High powered vehicle restrictions that apply if you obtained your probationary licence before 1 July 2007</H1>Drivers who were issued a probationary licence prior to 1 July 2007 may drive a vehicle if it is not a high powered vehicle as defined by either definition. If a vehicle is defined as high powered under one definition but not the other, it may be driven.

Definition of a high powered vehicle (prior to 1 July 2007)

• a power to mass ratio which exceeds 125 kilowatts per tonne; or
  
• an engine capacity which exceeds 3.5 litres per tonne of the unladen mass (tare) of the motor vehicle
  

[dezz]

33 gts-t is illegal for P-platers no matter which scheme you're on

[Benzino33]

there have been a number of threads about this issue. do a search

[MUZT3K]

dont know how to use the search, but thanks for the useful info you put into the thread.

[Benzino33]

dont know how to use the search, but thanks for the useful info you put into the thread.

Man, all Im saying is that theres a button up in the top right hand side of your screen it says "search". click on it, type in "p plate laws" or something relating to what you wanna know and Im sure a thread will come up answering your question. dont talk to me like Im ruining your thread, Im just saying it doesnt need to be made if theres already others answering your question.

hope this helps.

[Benzino33]

and btw, you cannot drive a gtst-t on your P's, but a gts is fine. I had one on my P's but was lucky enough to never have been pulled over.

Gtst-t's are considered high powered and cops arent the biggest fans of P-platers with turbo cars

[MUZT3K]

just spoke to the police and vic roads, the R33 has 132kw/tonne...all i need to do is add 110KG and it passes im 90kg..so just add heavier rims and i pass and the officer said i wont get introuble at all because it becomes legal

[dezz]

just spoke to the police and vic roads, the R33 has 132kw/tonne...all i need to do is add 110KG and it passes im 90kg..so just add heavier rims and i pass and the officer said i wont get introuble at all because it becomes legal

[SKYL1N]

they go by factory weight. you can put 20 sandbags in the car to weigh it down, if they wanna screw you they will.

[R32Big_boy]

just spoke to the police and vic roads, the R33 has 132kw/tonne...all i need to do is add 110KG and it passes im 90kg..so just add heavier rims and i pass and the officer said i wont get introuble at all because it becomes legal

You seem like an intelligent person.

[MUZT3K]

they go by factory weight. you can put 20 sandbags in the car to weigh it down, if they wanna screw you they will.

incorrect. i just spoke to a constable whos been in the work force for 14 years. and he said yes its ok and i asked him if i ever get pulled over can i call you as a reference and he said yes. so i dont know who youve spoken too

[Benzino33]

just spoke to the police and vic roads, the R33 has 132kw/tonne...all i need to do is add 110KG and it passes im 90kg..so just add heavier rims and i pass and the officer said i wont get introuble at all because it becomes legal

Lolski

[R32Big_boy]

incorrect. i just spoke to a constable whos been in the work force for 14 years. and he said yes its ok and i asked him if i ever get pulled over can i call you as a reference and he said yes. so i dont know who youve spoken too

Mate you can play this two ways. You can take what a cop has told you as gospel and run the risk.

Or you can do a few simple calculations and work out that your car is in fact over the power/weight ratio and therefore illegal to drive on your P's.

When you get pulled over you can scream till your blue in the face that a police officer told you something, fact is they are going to laugh at you while they write out a ticket for driving a car over power/weight then tell you to tow your car home because you cant drive it.

[MUZT3K]

Mate you can play this two ways. You can take what a cop has told you as gospel and run the risk.

Or you can do a few simple calculations and work out that your car is in fact over the power/weight ratio and therefore illegal to drive on your P's.

When you get pulled over you can scream till your blue in the face that a police officer told you something, fact is they are going to laugh at you while they write out a ticket for driving a car over power/weight then tell you to tow your car home because you cant drive it.

read what you just wrote power to weight ratio, if the car weighs 100kg more then original then it passes as legal. my friend owns a 300zx twin turbo.. he got pulled over cop said this is over the power to weight ratio and he said no its not. cop got him to go weigh it and my mate just threw in some weights and it passed.

[dezz]

Great thread

[MUZT3K]

Vicroads dont have a list of CARS that cant be driven nor do the cops. If they did they wouldnt bother with power to weight ratio, they would just state "OK such and such cars cant be driven"

EDIT

The reason we have power to weight ratio is because its dangerous for p plates...but if you make the car heavier it is no longer dangerous there for legal make sense?

Edited July 21, 2009 by MUZT3K

[dezz]

Vicroads dont have a list of CARS that cant be driven nor do the cops. If they did they wouldnt bother with power to weight ratio, they would just state "OK such and such cars cant be driven"

Why even bother starting a thread asking for an answer when you think you're right anyway?

[_Ryan_]

incorrect. i just spoke to a constable whos been in the work force for 14 years. and he said yes its ok and i asked him if i ever get pulled over can i call you as a reference and he said yes. so i dont know who youve spoken too

14yrs and only a constable when they try to bump your rank every 5years i think it is? FAIL

[R31Nismoid]

closed

Not even worth the time - use the search and try to understand that you simply cannot 'add a sand bag' and the car is legal to drive.