Turbo Vs. Non Turbo P Plate

[skylinelova07]

Hi.

I have a problem..

Basically I have found two r34's which I am interested in buying, however, one is turbo (at $19,000) whilst the other is non turbo but $20,000.

I am on my P plate licence and hence i SHOULD buy the non turbo. But if i bought the turbo I would get a better deal but would have to get an exemption + it would be a lot faster and considered more dangerous in the eyes of my parents.

My question is would a gt-t r34 be to powerful for me or would i get the hang of it and (considering I -along with a lot of people i know - think i am one of the safest drivers they have ever driven with) how difficult would it be to get an Exemption for this car from the QLD government?

If any one can help me out with this it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Luke.

[Benzino33]

how long till you're off your P's? And wat job do you have that would give you an exemption? I think people only get exemptions for work purposes, so you'd only be allowed to drive it to and from work.

Getting the hang of it depends on how in control of yourself you are as a driver. coz i know if i had my skyline when i was 18, i would hav wraped it around a pole coz of the power.

I think you're better off getting the N/A, selling it to another p plater en u get ur full license and buy the turbo one then- they'll probably be cheaper then anyway.

Theres been a lot of threads about these issues so just do a search and im sure somethin will come up.

cheers

[skylinelova07]

how long till you're off your P's? And wat job do you have that would give you an exemption? I think people only get exemptions for work purposes, so you'd only be allowed to drive it to and from work.

Getting the hang of it depends on how in control of yourself you are as a driver. coz i know if i had my skyline when i was 18, i would hav wraped it around a pole coz of the power.

I think you're better off getting the N/A, selling it to another p plater en u get ur full license and buy the turbo one then- they'll probably be cheaper then anyway.

Theres been a lot of threads about these issues so just do a search and im sure somethin will come up.

cheers

Thanks Benzino. I think i'm going to take your advice there cause firstly I don't want to be just driving it to and from work. And secondly, I don't really wanna wrap it around a pole cause i know it would be tempting to just floor it from time to time. So, thanks again .

Luke.

Edited August 1, 2009 by skylinelova07

[SL33K]

just buy the turbo one for about 900bucks less and then use that 900bucks to buy a crappy daily which you can use for work.

atleast u can keep admiring your r34 while ur on ur P's and pretend to drive it in the driveway till ur off ur P's

[Benzino33]

Thanks Benzino. I think i'm going to take your advice there cause firstly I don't want to be just driving it to and from work. And secondly, I don't really wanna wrap it around a pole cause i know it would be tempting to just floor it from time to time. So, thanks again .

Luke.

No problem man, drive the NA and get more experience, thats the best way.

cheers

[Keeper]

The government made the rule for a reason, buy a cheaper RWD N/A, have fun in it, by the time you are allowd a turbo you will be hopefully able to drive with a bit more confidence.

When I got my P's turbo cars werent so cheap, my first RWD wasnt quick, but it taught me about throttle control and conering, and I did spin it out a couple times, not intentionally, and because it was a pig it was slow enough I didnt damage anything.

[KezR33]

Unless you're getting a car with a monster sound system, body kit and custom respray you should not be paying that much for an R34 GT.

Look elsewhere, find a nice clean GT for the ~$15,000 mark and enjoy.

[[200]]

It will be too powerful for you and you will kill yourself in it.

You won't be able to get an exception because you have had the choice of owning a non turbocharged car. Queensland Transport and the Government wouldn't give a rats arse that the turbocharged vehicle was better value.

Buy a shit box, save your money (or your parents) so when you're on your full licence you will be able to buy something nice.

[syfon]

My first car was a Toyota Paseo...1.5L 4cyl with no power and then i went to my R33 GTS-t while still on my P's....

It's not all about the power of the car, but more so about how much experience you have on the roads, however the power of the car does make a difference.

Since i have had my car, i have learnt a lot in the way of driving a car with reasonably high power, rwd and lsd....just dont do anything stupid and if you want to, take it to the track where it's a safer environment for all.

Plus the R34 GT-T's have traction control as far as i know?

[HEKT1K]

wait until you are off Ps.. then buy the GTT.

seriously, do this.

[skylinelova07]

This is my second car. My first car (which i owned for a year now) was a mazda 1000 ute (very slow, 1L) and i often drive my brothers Datsun 1600 which isn't exactly powerful but its not slow. Have driven a Supra a couple of times and never found that to be too fast (164KW). So based on this, does anyone have any more input?

Thanks Syfon for your input, this sounds like me so i thought i would just ask if anyone else has had a similar experience?

Luke

Edited August 1, 2009 by skylinelova07

[R34biatch]

well personally i thnk that u should buy the n/a gt and wait till u can drive the turbo one.I just bought a r34 n/a coz im on my ps and i only paid 15000 so i think u need to be looking at cheaper cars.

[sneakey pete]

Remeber that the GT is more expensive than the GTT for a reason (P plate laws), and that's not likely to change at all in the future.

[Kranker]

im not sure where you are looking at these cars, but a 2 sec look on carsales shows that generally a 25GT should be significantly less than a GTT, and well under $20k.

find a cheaper 25GT, drive that around for a year or two. then you can decide if you want to upgrade to a GTT.

[bigslick]

Besides, you'd have to look at the price of insurance (not saying you haven't). But being a young bloke it would be either very difficult or very expensive to get insurance for the turbo.

[DC33VN]

pretty much the goverment will do anything and everything they can do to stop you from getting a exemption and if you do , you can only use it within what you got it for. my friends a mechanic and he got the exemption but he can only drive turbo cars during work hours

[peterw]

Depends how long you've got left on your P's. If it's not too long, hold out and get the GTT. I went the NA because I wasn't going to try and hold out 3 years on P's without being pulled over, or even being in an accident (would void insurance I'm sure). The NA should be an easy sell too considering how many new P-platers would be after them with the no-turbo rules.

People saying car is too powerful etc is load of crap. If you're a twat and plant the foot at all times, etc, and crash - you brought it on yourself, dont blame the car!

Edited August 3, 2009 by peterw

[MissR34]

i brought my R34 GT for $20,000 3 years ago fresh from japan, cant believe they would still be selling at that price!?

[mad082]

i brought my R34 GT for $20,000 3 years ago fresh from japan, cant believe they would still be selling at that price!?

it depends on the individual car. just like how with turbo models you can find a variance of 10 to 15k for the same model

[Birds]

As has been said, stick with the N/A. Too many reasons why you shouldn't buy a turbo and only one why you should.

Can't believe you're looking at a 20k N/A though...I've seen them in very good nick for 15 grand.