Simon-S14 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 First up... yes ive searched. the search function on this forum is somewhat dated and needs an overhaul IMO... due to bringing up so many irrelevant results up which have nothing to do with the search query anyway, bitch aside, im putting together a neo powered drift car, some of you may remember i used to have a R32 with stock RB25 with 3071R making 280 rwkw on 17 psi with cams and gears. I still have the 32 these days but its pretty stock these days and the 25 is still in it but stock turbo etc. i understand that 300 rwkw seems to be regarded as the limits for an internally stock 25... and mine with 28 never posed ANY probs whats so ever and was reliable as hell... soooo Whats a neo motor like with similar power levels? this time round ive got a 3037 with high mount mani, hks gate and cams + injectors, will be running a nisstune again (love em) and am hoping to make similar power levels. Is the CR the same in a neo compared to a 33 25? cheers for the replies... if any. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/283260-power-limit-of-stock-internaled-neo-25/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Ryan_ Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 I think they have GTR rods, and the head design is different? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/283260-power-limit-of-stock-internaled-neo-25/#findComment-4766362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon-S14 Posted August 13, 2009 Author Share Posted August 13, 2009 i know they have solid lifters, but from the searching i did, everyone seems to say they think they have GTR rods... but no confirmation. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/283260-power-limit-of-stock-internaled-neo-25/#findComment-4766366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Ryan_ Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 i know they have solid lifters, but from the searching i did, everyone seems to say they think they have GTR rods... but no confirmation. Pretty sure there was a thread where someone pulled some out? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/283260-power-limit-of-stock-internaled-neo-25/#findComment-4766434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbotonic Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 I like seen people still playing with neo's Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/283260-power-limit-of-stock-internaled-neo-25/#findComment-4766477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 300-330rwkw on a good one. we have a couple now getting round with T67's making lazy 320's (ie sensible boost etc.) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/283260-power-limit-of-stock-internaled-neo-25/#findComment-4766718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon-S14 Posted August 13, 2009 Author Share Posted August 13, 2009 nice. so what do you reckon a 3037 with ex gate on one could do, im after a comfortable 280 or so. doable? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/283260-power-limit-of-stock-internaled-neo-25/#findComment-4766730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvd50l Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 i remember reading an article in a magazine about a r34 putting out a decent power figure (goes through pile of mags next to me) ok it a performance imports mag from some months ago, got a red 34 gtt in it, makes 364rwkw on an internally standard 25 neo, and they reckon it was pretty reliable too lol although i wouldnt expect that to last too long without going bang, but then it does prove the fact its possible Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/283260-power-limit-of-stock-internaled-neo-25/#findComment-4766825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 same as a R33 RB25 really. weak point is still the pistons/rings, always will be. 280rwkw for longevity. Anyone can make power on a stock motor, does not mean it will last Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/283260-power-limit-of-stock-internaled-neo-25/#findComment-4766851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon-S14 Posted August 13, 2009 Author Share Posted August 13, 2009 i remember reading an article in a magazine about a r34 putting out a decent power figure (goes through pile of mags next to me) ok it a performance imports mag from some months ago, got a red 34 gtt in it, makes 364rwkw on an internally standard 25 neo, and they reckon it was pretty reliable too lol although i wouldnt expect that to last too long without going bang, but then it does prove the fact its possible i dont think 364 rwkw stock motor would last with me driving it yeah so long i can do what i did with my old 25 i'll be happy. 280 all day every day. is the C/R ratio same or different to r33 version? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/283260-power-limit-of-stock-internaled-neo-25/#findComment-4766872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
700HP-GTR33 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 We did up one and only could push .9 Bar on the stock Turbo's. Strange, because I always thought that 1 bar was safe for RB25's and Neos......Not. Even with a FMIC, fuel pump, exhaust and computer upgrade it pushed 180RWKW's. This is an Auto and not manual driven around the city daily. The Neo Motor is not the best stock motor to draw reliable power from. If you push it to its limits more than likely you will need a re-build. 300 RWKW's day in day out with stock internals?..... Depends once again on the Dyno your using. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/283260-power-limit-of-stock-internaled-neo-25/#findComment-4766926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 ive been running a limiter abused 285rwkw for over a year on mine Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/283260-power-limit-of-stock-internaled-neo-25/#findComment-4766962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STATUS Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 We did up one and only could push .9 Bar on the stock Turbo's.Strange, because I always thought that 1 bar was safe for RB25's and Neos......Not. Even with a FMIC, fuel pump, exhaust and computer upgrade it pushed 180RWKW's. This is an Auto and not manual driven around the city daily. The Neo Motor is not the best stock motor to draw reliable power from. If you push it to its limits more than likely you will need a re-build. 300 RWKW's day in day out with stock internals?..... Depends once again on the Dyno your using. 180rwkw for an auto is REAL good, i would not be complaining Manuals top out around 200-210rwkw. as for 300rwkw reliable out of a RB25 i could post about 6 cars that see regular drifting days (about 6 -8 events a year) and if they can endure drifting they can endure anything. These cars have also ran @ other dyno days. DA driver Chris de jager is one of them and if you think a TD06SH-25G on a rb25 making 300rwkw is unrealistic i dont know what else to say... ps his motor has done three seasons in the GFB car before we tuned the TD06SH-25G in his new S15.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/283260-power-limit-of-stock-internaled-neo-25/#findComment-4767286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cjmartz2k Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Been making 300rwkw+ for over 3 years now. It's not a track car, but I do beat the snot out of it on the weekends. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/283260-power-limit-of-stock-internaled-neo-25/#findComment-4767806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adzR34 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 i think it depends on the tune. Its been an abusive 2months lol, so far so good touch wood... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/283260-power-limit-of-stock-internaled-neo-25/#findComment-4768554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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